OrangeMan73
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Timing of this is perfect. Pulls all the attention away from Idaho's nonresident tag system. Go Montana!
Ida-who?Timing of this is perfect. Pulls all the attention away from Idaho's nonresident tag system. Go Montana!
My take on this is that it will still degrade trophy units dramatically. Some people have big families. And they would have their pick of big bulls. Also, as stated, it’s a slippery slope. That’s one step closer to allowing outfitting on those private land pieces on a general tag. And finally, we all know there are loopholes in everything. People would find ways to hunt those private lands on a general tag.I don't see a problem with it as long as it's just the owner or immediate family who is hunting. Why shouldn't I be allowed to hunt my own land?
It’s not one step closer to any of those things. It’s twenty steps backwards towards the kings deer theory.My take on this is that it will still degrade trophy units dramatically. Some people have big families. And they would have their pick of big bulls. Also, as stated, it’s a slippery slope. That’s one step closer to allowing outfitting on those private land pieces on a general tag. And finally, we all know there are loopholes in everything. People would find ways to hunt those private lands on a general tag.
It’s one more step toward the monetization of hunting. Less for the common man, more for the rich man.
Extreme example: In parts of MT the Elk population objective is something like 1 elk per 28 Square miles. There's typically a shit load of land owners over 28 square miles that would then be able to shoot said elk. That doesn't work out well for anyone but the multimillion $ ranches who have enough land to let animals survive if they so choose.Whats wrong with that? If he decides he wants animals he fosters habitat and a sustainability model, if he doesn't then he doesnt and he has no animals
This is a great point. I got awarded an EHA opportunity last year for a cow. The ranch I went to was 40,000 acres with about the same amount of totally or essentially landlocked public within it. The morning the ranch manager took me out I saw no less than a thousand elk on his and an adjoining ranch with a few hundred bulls in that mix. That unit is managed as a trophy unit with only a handful of bull permits issued each year.Extreme example: In parts of MT the Elk population objective is something like 1 elk per 28 Square miles. There's typically a shit load of land owners over 28 square miles that would then be able to shoot said elk. That doesn't work out well for anyone but the multimillion $ ranches who have enough land to let animals survive if they so choose.
Kind of. The opportunity I wrote about above was issued in response to the land owner getting a tag. The ranch had to allow I think 5 hunters on in exchange for that one tag. One bull and the rest cows.Is there already some kind of landowner tag system/program in montana?
I don't see a problem with it as long as it's just the owner or immediate family who is hunting. Why shouldn't I be allowed to hunt my own land?
Or or we believe in the North American Model of Conservation.Sounds like most of you guys are just butthurt you don't own a ranch.
Sounds like most of you guys are just butthurt you don't own a ranch.
Sounds like most of you guys are just butthurt you don't own a ranch.
It makes me cry that this is actually a valid question.You in UT?
Extreme example: In parts of MT the Elk population objective is something like 1 elk per 28 Square miles. There's typically a shit load of land owners over 28 square miles that would then be able to shoot said elk. That doesn't work out well for anyone but the multimillion $ ranches who have enough land to let animals survive if they so choose.
The problem with public land is that it is managed for multiple use and what may be good for one group may not good for the other. That is primarily why private land is so much better. The person that owns it can prioritize one thing while public cannot.then build habitat to sustain and attract. I get the point you are making and dont disagree, but from a devils advocate standpoint.
if someone is worried about the greener grass on the other side of the fence then build better habitat, including the general public on public land…
Sounds like most of you guys are just butthurt you don't own a ranch.
Totally get it. I live on 6 acres and animals use it. Why shouldn't i be able shoot em all? It’s on muh property!