Montana Rifle Company Junction 308Win Field Evaluation

[PredatorSlayer]

Quite okay for you to do what you wish.
However, it does not make someone a "koolaid" drinker to have and use a stock that was designed to improve shootibility and has proven time and time again to do so.

Randy

What if it is a 223 Tikka with 6x SWFA? You can’t be too sensitive if you are going to push an ugly ass stock. You have to take the crap that comes with it. Lol

 

[Choupique]

It's a stretch to call that a malfunction.

Just don't make one in .338 win mag, lest my resolve be tested beyond its strength.

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

What if it is a 223 Tikka with 6x SWFA? You can’t be too sensitive if you are going to push an ugly ass stock. You have to take the crap that comes with it. Lol

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A person complaining incessantly about the "appearance" of a rifle warning about sensitivity. Ironic.

Perhaps just don't purchase one if you don't want to.

 

[Formidilosus]

It's a stretch to call that a malfunction.

It’s a malfunction. A user induced one, but a malfunction nonetheless.

 

[ElPollo]

Quite okay for you to do what you wish.
However, it does not make someone a "koolaid" drinker to have and use a stock that was designed to improve shootibility and has proven time and time again to do so.

Randy

I meant that to be humorous, not critical. Apologies if it seemed to be more the latter. People who use phrases like ‘drinking the koolaid’ have realized they cannot use facts to support their opinions.

 

[plebe]

It’s a malfunction. A user induced one, but a malfunction nonetheless.

Dual plungers better vs. that turret? Or just work the bolt?

 

[Formidilosus]

Dual plungers better vs. that turret? Or just work the bolt?

Nah, just don’t angle the port up and try to be cute by dribbling the brass out.

 

[rbutcher1234]

Run a bolt on a rifle like you work an HK. Manhandle it and slap that thing around, make the gun do what you want as fast as possible. Cycle with strength and purpose.

Edit: form already responded while I was typing about not getting cute, which was what I really was trying to say.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Another 200+ round day and the first malfunction.

An awkward kneeling position with the rifle rotated counterclockwise while cycling. Was a gentle cycle trying to drop all the brass in a pile and not chase it in the snow- hit windage turret and fell back in.

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Repeated the situation for multiple full magazines, and anything resembling a brisk stroke of the bolt launched the cases without issue. Trying to trickle them out with the rifle rotated as in the picture and they sometimes fall back in.

200+ rounds in a single day?!?!? Some folks on here have told me that's inconceivable!

This is how I relieved this issue on a couple Sako 85's that were known for having brass jump back into the gun. Run it like you mean it flat out works. I've had this happen on Tikkas as well when trying to keep brass in the same shaded area so it would be easy to find.

 

[Formidilosus]

200+ rounds in a single day?!?!? Some folks on here have told me that's inconceivable!

About 800 308win rounds this week- most within a 30min window each day. My little baby shoulder is feeling it. grin.

This is how I relieved this issue on a couple Sako 85's that were known for having brass jump back into the gun. Run it like you mean it flat out works. I've had this happen on Tikkas as well when trying to keep brass in the same shaded area so it would be easy to find.

Oh yeah. This malfunction was just me being dumb.

 

[Grumman]

I was able to see Ian and the MRC guys at the SCI convention. It was nice being able to speak with them as they know their product inside and out and want customer feedback. The same can’t be said for every gun booth.

They had their prototype 375H&H rifle on display and it was stunning. The rifle balanced very well and the fit and finish was absolutely flawless. I am hating myself for forgetting to take photos of it. I will be a buyer on that one when it hits production.

I have not been a fan of their 24” 308 barrel lengths but sounds like those will be getting shortened and more calibers will be coming.

I am very excited for them and hope they continue to grow. A modern stainless CRF rifle with pre64 trigger made by very nice folks checks all the boxes for me.


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[rbutcher1234]

I’m an AI and tikka guy. However, this certainly makes me excited. I’d try it if it was a short threaded 308.

 

[Formidilosus]

I’m an AI and tikka guy. However, this certainly makes me excited. I’d try it if it was a short threaded 308.

They’ll be an 18” threaded 308win.

 

[Wiscgunner]

Another 200+ round day and the first malfunction.

An awkward kneeling position with the rifle rotated counterclockwise while cycling. Was a gentle cycle trying to drop all the brass in a pile and not chase it in the snow- hit windage turret and fell back in.

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Repeated the situation for multiple full magazines, and anything resembling a brisk stroke of the bolt launched the cases without issue. Trying to trickle them out with the rifle rotated as in the picture and they sometimes fall back in.

Thanks for posting something relevant to the thread.

 

[Wiscgunner]

It’s a malfunction. A user induced one, but a malfunction nonetheless.

Poor scope design caused malfunction since SWFA insists upon using BMX handlebars for turrets

 

[Formidilosus]

More shooting and a zero check-




As an aside, I counted the empty boxes and cases- over 4,000 rounds of 308 just from them, and two buckets nearly full of brass on top. Looks like somewhere between 7,000 nd 8,000 rounds total on the rifle so far. No cleaning or maintenance whatsoever, save a drop or two of olive oil on the bolt a couple of times.

 

[rbutcher1234]

Olive oil, I forgot you said that in a thread one time

 

[Formidilosus]

Olive oil, I forgot you said that in a thread one time

Certified organic, non GNO, non toxic, and seed oil free.


It does work well.

 

[walk2112]

More shooting and a zero check-

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As an aside, I counted the empty boxes and cases- over 4,000 rounds of 308 just from them, and two buckets nearly full of brass on top. Looks like somewhere between 7,000 nd 8,000 rounds total on the rifle so far. No cleaning or maintenance whatsoever, save a drop or two of olive oil on the bolt a couple of times.

Excellent, something about a jack of all trades, ‘go-to’ 308 is appealing in a world full of so many options and higher ammo prices.

Please remind me are those 1.5” dia. sticky dots or 2”?

 

[Wapiti1]

A few comments from handling these and talking with the MRC guys at SCI in Nashville. They've done a nice job with the design. Same as the original, but executed with the right attention to detail. I've worked on a couple dozen of the originals, and they could be excellent, or complete turds. I don't see that ever being the case here.
A couple of niggles, though. They are straight out of the mill and then "finished". Meaning the ring and bridge show machine striations through the bead blast finish. Less obvious on the cerakote or blued actions, but the stainless ones it was noticeable to my eye. Admittedly, I am picky. This is solely cosmetic, but IMO, not up to the competition's standard. That said, I did see that they were deburred and didn't see or feel any sharp edges so there is some thought to finishing here. The bolt knob choices aren't my cup of tea. That one is purely me. I'd like a simple tear drop handle knob. Same with the Monte Carlo stock. I'd prefer straight comb classic.

Good stuff. Nitrided bolts. If they keep a high degree of finish on the bolts and nitride them, they will always be slick. That said, they will be hard to lap in if you want to. Very few machine marks on the bolts, and really clean bolt raceway machining (I assume EDM). Good tolerance control and appropriate clearances. Every action there felt the same which is good. Not too tight for bolt fit, not too loose and the anti-bind feature works. Enough room for dirt to pass and not cause issues. 3-pos safety with a left side gas deflection flange. Original Winchester design trigger. Side bolt stop/release. Snap over extractor for single feeding. Machined, not cast or powder met extractor. The action timing was perfect on every one I looked at. Meaning the bolt handle hit the primary extraction cam exactly when it should. Surprisingly few get this right, most are late. The safety was fit properly on each rifle as well, and functioned smoothly. Kimber should take note of this.

Couple of new models coming. The prototype safari rifle was there in .375 H&H. Round top receiver on that one. Good choice. I mentioned this and we looked at the standard with integral Pic rail. Yes, it works with open sights, BUT not the way you really want. Too much of the animal is obscured by the Pic rail. If something big and mean is coming at you, you really want a good view of it, I speak from experience. If I had one with the integral rails, I would install taller open sights. You need to see the whole animal, not just the upper half. They are also going to make steel bottom metal for the bigger rifles. Expect to see more big bore offerings shortly.

Overall, well done rifles, and I think they are what they should have been way back when.

Jeremy