Montana corner crossing lawsuit.

[T-Rex]

 

[rob86jeep]

I've said it before and stick to it. There is not a single person out there that is against corner crossing unless they're trying to block access to public land. And if there is, I would love to have a conversation with them and find out why...

 

[StupidLightweight]

I've said it before and stick to it. There is not a single person out there that is against corner crossing unless they're trying to block access to public land. And if there is, I would love to have a conversation with them and find out why...

That’s 99.99% of it. The other .1% who are against corner crossing could be afflicted with Climacophobia, the persistent, intense fear of climbing, specifically using ladders or stairs. Overcoming this fear requires a mix of gradual exposure and proper, secure ladder training.

 

[jkoehle1]

What I told hunters for years, is that it’s never (before the 10ths decision) been determined demonstrably one way or the other. If you do corner cross, there is a chance you could be charged. At that time our department decided to stay out of it just because there was no statute that clearly demonstrated (one way or the other) the legality or illegality of corner crossing. BUT that a county attorney may (which is exactly what happened in Wyoming).

It is sad that our department changed its view (or more likely someone changed it for them), especially in light of the 10ths decision.

Someones lying and it isnt @mtwarden

 

[mtwarden]

Wow! Either he got some wrong information or……

The departments position for a long time wasn’t that it was legal (or illegal), but that it never had been settled one way or the other and because of that, we (wardens) would steer any landowner with corner crossing issues to the county attorney. We never (ever) issued any citations for corner crossing.

 

[One300wsm]

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Someones lying and it isnt @mtwarden

Wow! Either he got some wrong information or……

The departments position for a long time wasn’t that it was legal (or illegal), but that it never had been settled one way or the other and because of that, we (wardens) would steer any landowner with corner crossing issues to the county attorney. We never (ever) issued any citations for corner crossing.

That was before the Wyoming ruling, and billionaire land owners in Montana started shoving $$$$$$ into pockets.
I mean what more could you ask for he’s protected and gave you access to 250,000 acres since 2021 with the help of the RMEF. The RMEF Since 2021, has helped open or improve public access to over 65,000 acres of land in Montana.
Nationally, RMEF has eclipsed 9 million acres of lifetime conservation and public land access, with Montana historically holding the highest concentration of RMEF project acres—totaling over 920,000 acres since the organization's founding .
Randy Newberg for Governor!!!

 

[One300wsm]

Anyone who hunts should be a life member of the RMEF, especially if you live in Montana.

Specific major land access projects in Montana since 2021 include:

• Big Snowy Mountains (2022): RMEF partnered with Shodair Children's Hospital and Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks to create a new 5,677-acre Wildlife Management Area. This acquisition not only opened access to the new WMA, but also unlocked access to an additional 4,300 acres of previously inaccessible adjacent public land.
• Garrity Mountain & Mount Haggin Expansions (2021): RMEF assisted in a series of acquisitions and conveyances bordering the Mount Haggin Wildlife Management Area. These efforts established permanent public access and conserved critical riparian and elk habitat.
• Johnson Creek (2022): RMEF worked with private landowners and the Bureau of Land Management to conserve and open public access to a 40-acre property southwest of Butte. Despite its smaller size, it established a vital access point through steep, rugged terrain into over 12,000 acres of previously challenging-to-reach BLM and state land.
• Seymour Creek (2024): In a continued partnership with the BLM and onX, RMEF conserved and provided new public access to a key watershed parcel adjacent to existing public lands, protecting crucial riparian and big game habitat.

God bless the RMEF we salute your efforts.

 

[MtnW]

Someone who is a resident of MT needs to publicly call out the lying governor Gianforte, and embarrass him in front of his constituents

 

[jmez]

One of the writers for Outdoor Life is following thus, researching it and posting on Facebook. A few days ago he started looking into the billionaires, political donations etc to try to expose the money trail.

He's not finding any. Appears the push is coming from ranchers, outfitters, and hunters. Been interesting to read and not what I expected.

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[One300wsm]

One of the writers for Outdoor Life is following thus, researching it and posting on Facebook. A few days ago he started looking into the billionaires, political donations etc to try to expose the money trail.

He's not finding any. Appears the push is coming from ranchers, outfitters, and hunters. Been interesting to read and not what I expected.

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That is most likely correct, and myself probably over stated the word “billionaire”.
There’s probably 6 - 12 so called true billionaire land owners in Montana and Ted just passed away RIP, guess I should have used the word “Wealthy”.
There are approximately 27,000 working ranches in Montana starting from 2,100 acres and up. 2,100 acres is worth between 8 to 25 million in Montana. So its ether been handed down through generations or purchased, which means your ether wealthy or have awesome credit.
Most of these ranchers lease their ranches to outfitters or they Ranch and Outfit.
Example:
CB ranch near Darby does both and owns approximately 26,000 acres,
I tend to call these ranchers billionaires maybe overstating.
My bad I have over stated the dollar amount in this thread by a couple zeros or two lol.

 

[Rich M]

You guys crack me up.

When I said that the GW in WY told me that he'd ticket me for corner crossing & not to do it, Rokslide said I and the GW were wrong cause of some old memo. Go and do what makes you happy 1/2 a continent from home.

Now MT is wrong.

You-all need to get yer shit straight - until the courts rule and the laws change, it is illegal. Suck it up or pay the trespass fines.

 

[jkoehle1]

You-all need to get yer shit straight - until the courts rule and the laws change, it is illegal. Suck it up or pay the trespass fines.

Laws need to be written. Or intrepreted from something thats written. Simply stated - no reasonable person would/can conclude that its law. America would certainly suck if the laws were as flexible as you think.

For a parallel in the 2A world - think about the atfs "pistol brace rule" that was fabricated out of thin air to add classifications based on certain features not listed in the GCA to an sbr.

It was the same thing - fiat rule.