Missouri Non Res Changes

[sasquatch]

If states really cared about crowding they’d focus on EXPANDING public land territory. However that’s too difficult, it’s always easier for govt to sit back and add more limitations.

Remember, once you cheer on limiting people for “quality” the moto is set, and next it’ll be the residents who are getting restricted.

I just find it comical at times that you can still get basically an OTC sheep tag in Montana yet other places are limiting turkey/deer hunting.

This “quality hunt” cheer is going to end badly at some point for all. Yea those who “draw” may have a “quality” hunt, but how’s the “quality” for the hundreds and even thousands that don’t draw and are stuck home. Draws sound great, right up until you don’t draw.


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[NRA4LIFE]

If states really cared about crowding they’d focus on EXPANDING public land territory. However that’s too difficult, it’s always easier for govt to sit back and add more limitations.

Remember, once you cheer on limiting people for “quality” the moto is set, and next it’ll be the residents who are getting restricted.

I just find it comical at times that you can still get basically an OTC sheep tag in Montana yet other places are limiting turkey/deer hunting.

This “quality hunt” cheer is going to end badly at some point for all. Yea those who “draw” may have a “quality” hunt, but how’s the “quality” for the hundreds and even thousands that don’t draw and are stuck home. Draws sound great, right up until you don’t draw.


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Yeah, I have probably seen 200+ "Not Selected" in WA and CO alone.

 

[NRA4LIFE]

Limiting NR to 1 buck is a good move.
Charging more is also a good move.
A draw for NR is a good idea too.

None of these are a good idea. Sorry.

 

[OneGunTex]

If states really cared about crowding they’d focus on EXPANDING public land territory. However that’s too difficult, it’s always easier for govt to sit back and add more limitations.

Remember, once you cheer on limiting people for “quality” the moto is set, and next it’ll be the residents who are getting restricted.

I just find it comical at times that you can still get basically an OTC sheep tag in Montana yet other places are limiting turkey/deer hunting.

This “quality hunt” cheer is going to end badly at some point for all. Yea those who “draw” may have a “quality” hunt, but how’s the “quality” for the hundreds and even thousands that don’t draw and are stuck home. Draws sound great, right up until you don’t draw.

I agree. But the crazy thing is, Missouri has LOTS of GOOD public land. Can you shoot a B&C buck on every tract - probably not. Can the residents of the state shoot a real dandy of a buck and a gobbler on public land within an hour of where they live - absolutely, in every corner of the state. Anyone who thinks Missouri of all states needs to limit NRs for their deer "quality" needs to pull their head out of their a** and go hunting

 

[Rich M]

None of these are a good idea. Sorry.

If you lived there and had to put up w the influx of folks, they sure would be a good idea.

We have a lot of R vs NR stuff on here. NR come and take from R. This will continue to be a contention point.

NR should pay more. Lottery is good to reduce pressure.

Why do you need 2 bucks if you are just traveling to hunt cause it is neat? Hunt your backyard.

 

[Marine4life]

Here is some data/info for you all to read and then argue over. This isn’t the first change by any means. A couple other things to keep in mind 2006 MO went from a 3 buck limit to a 2 buck limit for everyone. 2012 MDC started CWD culling and extended seasons eventually followed. 2016 MO authorized crossbows as legal archery equipment for all hunters. 2020 COVID increased hunter participation.

https://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/files/2025-03/NonresidentHuntingParticipationBriefingPaper.pdf

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[BPT0586]

I find it hilarious lately how many people are up in arms over MDC finally attemping to address the issue. Yet, those same people accept and even applaud western states that put their residents first. God forbid, a midwestern state starts attemping the same.

 

[sasquatch]

I find it hilarious lately how many people are up in arms over MDC finally attemping to address the issue. Yet, those same people accept and even applaud western states that put their residents first. God forbid, a midwestern state starts attemping the same.

I find it comical that the common statement used in defense is “western states do it so why can’t we”

There’s roughly 1m elk total in ALL states. Mule deer, about 3x that but again, ALL states.

Missouri alone has roughly 1.5 mm deer. It’s apples to oranges.

This isn’t to say “something” doesn’t need to happen, but the way these things usually go about are far overboard.

No talk is hardly ever about the herd and what it can sustain. It’s about “residents don’t like the pressure they have to hunt with”

When restrictions come out on what someone can do on their own private land, it’s no longer a discussion about the resource.


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[jesco88]

If you lived there and had to put up w the influx of folks, they sure would be a good idea.

We have a lot of R vs NR stuff on here. NR come and take from R. This will continue to be a contention point.

NR should pay more. Lottery is good to reduce pressure.

Why do you need 2 bucks if you are just traveling to hunt cause it is neat? Hunt your backyard

Well with this logic- then noone in the east would be able to travel to my neck of the woods (ID/MT/WY/UT) and chase Elk, Mule Deer or Antelope around the mountains. I think there's a lot more people that would be upset with that. The last thing we need is more ppl moving into these states just to hunt.

 

[sasquatch]

Well with this logic- then noone in the east would be able to travel to my neck of the woods (ID/MT/WY/UT) and chase Elk, Mule Deer or Antelope around the mountains. I think there's a lot more people that would be upset with that. The last thing we need is more ppl moving into these states just to hunt.

Your last sentence

Say it louder for the ones in the back!!!


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