Meateater podcast with Trump Jr

[IDWapiti]

I did enjoy the insight that his passion was formed because Dad never took him out in the woods and he had boarding school teachers as mentors.

 

[SemperHunter]

I’m not asking for your political views, I’m asking how to listen to the podcast


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As DTJ mentioned, simply having him on and giving him a platform will be polarizing for some people. Not that you've heard that since your post was about listening to it. I use spotify to listen to the podcasts and it was updated this morning when I checked to include the entirety of the interview.

 

[CorbLand]

Oh boy. Meateater, Trump, Trump Jr and public lands all in one thread? This going to be good.

 

[Akwoodchuck]

What's his thoughts on Tikkas though?

 

[EastMT]

I’m not a fan of any current politician but I’ll say he’s probably ahead of 99.9% of other NYC raised people on the outdoors, supporting hunting. Good for him.

 

[Doc Holliday]

..... "My dad's done more for conservation and public lands since Roosevelt". JOKE.

That's not what he said. You must work for CNN. He said it is the most "new access" that has been created, since Roosevelt.

Verbatim at 2:43 22 " And if you want talk about preserving the tradition of the great outdoors, you're not going to do it without access, and again, this is multiples of what, I don't even know if Obama and Biden opened any new land, they may have maintained what was existing there, but this is the largest since Roosevelt, in a century, in terms of new access......".

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[BuzzH]

That's not what he said. You must work for CNN. He said it is the most "new access" that has been created, since Roosevelt.

Verbatim at 2:43 22 " And if you want talk about preserving the tradition of the great outdoors, you're not going to do it without access, and again, this is multiples of what, I don't even know if Obama and Biden opened any new land, they may have maintained what was existing there, but this is the largest since Roosevelt, in a century, in terms of new access......"

That's not true either...

 

[Doc Holliday]

That's not true either...

You know what is true? DTJ is a passionate hunter who spends his weekends fishing, shooting, or doing something similar to what a lot of us do on the weekends, and he is the son of the president of the United States. I can’t think of a time in recent history when this was the case. He can afford to hunt any game animal anywhere on the planet, and has plenty of his own land, and friends with land, such that public access is not concern for him or anyone in his family or network. So if he wants to promote the things his Dad has done to create new access to landlocked public lands, and say it is an important thing, and recognize what has been done, I don’t see a problem with it. The fact that you or anyone on here mis-states what he said and/or calls him a liar, says a lot more about you than it does about him.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Looks like he was on Jay Scott as well.
And team never quit. Thank Iistened to that one and they obviously wouldn't talk hunting much as its not about that.

 

[BuzzH]

You know what is true? DTJ is a passionate hunter who spends his weekends fishing, shooting, or doing something similar to what a lot of us do on the weekends, and he is the son of the president of the United States. I can’t think of a time in recent history when this was the case. He can afford to hunt any game animal anywhere on the planet, and has plenty of his own land, and friends with land, such that public access is not concern for him or anyone in his family or network. So if he wants to promote the things his Dad has done to create new access to landlocked public lands, and say it is an important thing, and recognize what has been done, I don’t see a problem with it. The fact that you or anyone on here mis-states what he said and/or calls him a liar, says a lot more about you than it does about him.

Facts matter, and if you're going to make statements like that, on a widely listened to podcast, then get it right. Also, for the record, the access that he's talking about didn't open up much "landlocked" public land. In many cases, the acres "opened" were already open for hunting for other species, opened for longer periods, but not NEW access.

Any improved access is a great thing, but why are you so defensive about the truth of what was opened, what it was opened to, and that its not the biggest access deal since Roosevelt?

I also think its great that he hunts, fishes, etc...nobody said anything to contrary.

The facts are what they are...

 

[IDWapiti]

You missed my point entirely. Trump Jr. is trying to claim that by creating access, Dad's had a great record for sportsmen - and he couldn't be more wrong. It's like saying that because you mopped up after spilling your beer on the living room floor that you therefore keep an impeccibly clean house.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Looks like meat eater episode 64 as well

 

[Ten Bears]

Genuinely asking.

Does anyone actually have a list of things we have 100% lost as in access or rights for hunters since DT took office ? Not ideas floated or things backed. Like real legislation that has been implemented to the determinate of hunters ?

And what Bills/positives have been gained since then also ?

 

[Doc Holliday]

You missed my point entirely. Trump Jr. is trying to claim that by creating access, Dad's had a great record for sportsmen - and he couldn't be more wrong. It's like saying that because you mopped up after spilling your beer on the living room floor that you therefore keep an impeccibly clean house.

You literally put quotation marks and wrote in words that he did not say. I'm guessing people miss your point all the time.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Facts matter, and if you're going to make statements like that, on a widely listened to podcast, then get it right. Also, for the record, the access that he's talking about didn't open up much "landlocked" public land. In many cases, the acres "opened" were already open for hunting for other species, opened for longer periods, but not NEW access.

Any improved access is a great thing, but why are you so defensive about the truth of what was opened, what it was opened to, and that its not the biggest access deal since Roosevelt?

I also think its great that he hunts, fishes, etc...nobody said anything to contrary.

The facts are what they are...

Post up your proof you have that he is wrong.

Do you have a list of all new access created since Roosevelt, the acreage to which each new access point granted, and the president who created that access?

You would need to have that list compiled and calculated to make such a statement.

 

[Chucklehead]

Going off the top of my head here, so feel free to correct me, but didn't he open up some national monuments for hunting/fishing? In Utah maybe? I would say that is new access even though it was already public.

 

[BuzzH]

Post up your proof you have that he is wrong.

Do you have a list of all new access created since Roosevelt, the acreage to which each new access point granted, and the president who created that access?

You would need to have that list compiled and calculated to make such a statement.

Glad you asked, its all there if you bother to look.

Montana gained, via a lot of heavy lifting from Sportsmen, the right to hunt State Trust Lands in 1984, 5.3 million acres. Montana stream access law, opened up a metric chit ton of fishing access.

Montana Block Management program started in 1996 funded by Sportsmen, 7.1 million acres of access.

Wyoming AccessYes program, funded via sportsmen, started in about 2000, last year opened up 2,649,457 direct acres and another 168,603 acres of landlocked adjacent public lands, 4007 lake acres and 89 miles of stream fishing access.

Should I go on, or do you want to concede the point that average, everyday sportsmen and the various GF agencies open up vastly more acres of hunting and fishing access than Trumps 2.3 million acres he's claiming on National Wildlife Refuges?

Look, I'm not downplaying the fact that what Trump did with refuges isn't a good thing, it certainly is. In particular in areas of the country where access is limited and refuges is all you have. But, at least be smart enough to look at the what was opened, and what it was opened up TO, etc.

Its funny how the average working class hunter is thrown under the bus, or at the very least not even recognized for the great strides we've made to improve access. Wayyyyyyy more than the Trump administration has done, and by a landslide, at a minimum.

Carry on...

 

[wind gypsy]

Going off the top of my head here, so feel free to correct me, but didn't he open up some national monuments for hunting/fishing? In Utah maybe? I would say that is new access even though it was already public.

Largest Expansion of Hunting and Fishing Access Proposed for Refuges | Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership

Here’s where new acres could be open to sportsmen and women by fall 2020.

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[wind gypsy]

Glad you asked, its all there if you bother to look.

Montana gained, via a lot of heavy lifting from Sportsmen, the right to hunt State Trust Lands in 1984, 5.3 million acres. Montana stream access law, opened up a metric chit ton of fishing access.

Montana Block Management program started in 1996 funded by Sportsmen, 7.1 million acres of access.

Wyoming AccessYes program, funded via sportsmen, started in about 2000, last year opened up 2,649,457 direct acres and another 168,603 acres of landlocked adjacent public lands, 4007 lake acres and 89 miles of stream fishing access.

Should I go on, or do you want to concede the point that average, everyday sportsmen and the various GF agencies open up vastly more acres of hunting and fishing access than Trumps 2.3 million acres he's claiming on National Wildlife Refuges?

Look, I'm not downplaying the fact that what Trump did with refuges isn't a good thing, it certainly is. In particular in areas of the country where access is limited and refuges is all you have. But, at least be smart enough to look at the what was opened, and what it was opened up TO, etc.

Its funny how the average working class hunter is thrown under the bus, or at the very least not even recognized for the great strides we've made to improve access. Wayyyyyyy more than the Trump administration has done, and by a landslide, at a minimum.

Carry on...

Buzz, your examples are all state based. What about other presidential administrations?

 

[Doc Holliday]

Glad you asked, its all there if you bother to look.

Montana gained, via a lot of heavy lifting from Sportsmen, the right to hunt State Trust Lands in 1984, 5.3 million acres. Montana stream access law, opened up a metric chit ton of fishing access.

Montana Block Management program started in 1996 funded by Sportsmen, 7.1 million acres of access.

Wyoming AccessYes program, funded via sportsmen, started in about 2000, last year opened up 2,649,457 direct acres and another 168,603 acres of landlocked adjacent public lands, 4007 lake acres and 89 miles of stream fishing access.

Should I go on, or do you want to concede the point that average, everyday sportsmen and the various GF agencies open up vastly more acres of hunting and fishing access than Trumps 2.3 million acres he's claiming on National Wildlife Refuges?

Look, I'm not downplaying the fact that what Trump did with refuges isn't a good thing, it certainly is. In particular in areas of the country where access is limited and refuges is all you have. But, at least be smart enough to look at the what was opened, and what it was opened up TO, etc.

Its funny how the average working class hunter is thrown under the bus, or at the very least not even recognized for the great strides we've made to improve access. Wayyyyyyy more than the Trump administration has done, and by a landslide, at a minimum.

Carry on...

OK, so you gave 0 examples, not a single acre, of what any past president has done.

DTJr clearly spoke in terms of presidents/administrations, and new access they have created since 1909 (when Theodore Roosevelt's presidency ended). Did you even listen to it?