McMillan Mountain Tracker LR - Tikka T3 Dev Project

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Trigger reach of the MTLR is the same as the Rokstok
I expect some wallets to lighten up

Mtn tracker is under 2", bout 1-3/4" to 1-7/8" with my curved trigger. I have zero issues, it's not much different that rokstok. Here's the Rok and McMillan. I wear an XL glove.
Camo is McMillan, carbon is Rok.
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After a lull I can see 6 more people bought today. 33 more today then they will start building the mold/stocks.

If you are contemplating, remember that the stocks will be built in the order that you got on the list so if you are number 50 you will be waiting a little while.
 

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Thanks @LostWapiti for posting the link to this in another thread, sorry for stealing your thunder but I believe this needs it's own!

I've been waiting for this to come up for a while now, so I'm in as one of the backers with a deposit down. Let's get this project going so we have another properly designed stock option for Tikkas! I've seen other members posts that they received their order in ~7 weeks from order with the current production MTLR, so wait times could be incentive. If you have a MTLR or have shot one, feel free to post specs, reviews, thoughts, etc.

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Is there anything else we can do to get the word out? I've posted on Facebook.
 
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I'll make a post. It would be really cool if this project takes off.
Awesome! I cross posted to a couple FB groups as well, it looks like it's gained a few backers in the last week so hopefully it takes off!
 

mvv5137

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I just sent off an email to McMillan. I recommended they add Tikka T3X to the list of possible inlets on the MT LR main page, with an explanation and link to the dev project landing page. There are probably folks that check out the stock on the website, see it’s not inletted for tikka, and give up. Hopefully, this will help get us to 50 backers.
 

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Doesn’t anyone see this as a backassward method to do a funded pre-sale/ pre-order list. Seriously
If they were a small shop then I would be fine with it. They are the STANDARD for many and don’t need my money to support their R&D experiments. The margins on their existing offerings have to be in the 40%+ range.
 

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Doesn’t anyone see this as a backassward method to do a funded pre-sale/ pre-order list. Seriously
If they were a small shop then I would be fine with it. They are the STANDARD for many and don’t need my money to support their R&D experiments. The margins on their existing offerings have to be in the 40%+ range.
I see it as a way to test the waters without getting burnt. I get that they are a larger company, but making a few stocks for random inlets isn't profitable. Tons of people say "if you made XYZ for XYZ, it'd sell like hotcakes", then when that product does become available, it doesn't sell well.

There were multiple threads on RS, LRH, Snipers Hide, and Hunt Talk about interest in ADG 300 SAUM brass over the past year. Tons of people said they'd be in for xxx amount of pieces without having to put any sort of deposit down at all. ADG pulled through after a member fronted all the cash for the run - from the looks of it, it seems like a very small percentage of those people calling for the brass actually ended up purchasing.

I'm on the fence for the Tikka inlet. I don't *need* it, my CTR shoot well in my KRG Bravo. If it comes down to needing one more backer at the deadline, I'll jump in ;)
 

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This is absurd. And was it absurd for the Rokstok too. I don’t get it. What sucker gives a business an interest free loan to conduct R&D and front production? This isn’t how business should function. If you need money as a business, get a loan from a bank or SBA, or raise capital from investors. To expect your customer to hold the bag for you is crazy! Yet here we are and people are wilfully throwing their money at the cause. Strange world.
 

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This is absurd. And was it absurd for the Rokstok too. I don’t get it. What sucker gives a business an interest free loan to conduct R&D and front production? This isn’t how business should function. If you need money as a business, get a loan from a bank or SBA, or raise capital from investors. To expect your customer to hold the bag for you is crazy! Yet here we are and people are wilfully throwing their money at the cause. Strange world.
I see your point in a way but also think about it this way. If a customer, or group of customers, says “we want X”, is it absurd for them to say, if a certain number of customers commit we’ll do it? And “commit” isn’t Joe blow saying I’ll take 5, then when it’s time to order he’s no where to be seen. Now paying in full and waiting a year…that’s a different story.
 

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I see your point in a way but also think about it this way. If a customer, or group of customers, says “we want X”, is it absurd for them to say, if a certain number of customers commit we’ll do it? And “commit” isn’t Joe blow saying I’ll take 5, then when it’s time to order he’s no where to be seen. Now paying in full and waiting a year…that’s a different story.
I don’t fault McM. It makes perfect sense on their end. But it’s a hard no from me as a consumer. I’ll buy the product after the R&D has been performed on somebody else’s dime. Isn’t there some law against this too?
 

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I don’t fault McM. It makes perfect sense on their end. But it’s a hard no from me as a consumer. I’ll buy the product after the R&D has been performed on somebody else’s dime. Isn’t there some law against this too?
Two month interest free loan of $100 to kickstart a product is different than a full preorder. And I can stomach that if it kickstarts production of a niche product I want.

Maybe it is illegal. No idea. For $100 I dont care to find out.

"R&D" is not a fair term here. They make good stocks and have been for decades. These are tooling costs like they said, and I have a feeling their tooling designers aren't going to somehow mess their ump-teenth Tikka mold

I expect the first production to be good-to-go or my money back. Maybe I'm the fool. But its just a stock. I'll rock factory plastic if it falls through or I'll rock a Rokstok 10.0 if it works out
 
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