McGuire Ballistics field and terminal reports

[bowrunner81]

I’m really not understanding why everyone is jumping on this guy. He’s trying to improve on a difficult line of products to improve on. Monometal bullets likely will never be able to compete with lead core bullets, but people can be successful with this. People on this thread jumped on this dude from the get go and hadn’t tested his bullets fully. Also, not everyone is a great communicator and I’m sure he would agree he did not do the best at that. If you are interested in them but don’t want to blow a deer or elk hunt at the risk of a bad bullet, maybe go kill some coyotes or something with them and see if they upset how you want. I don’t want this guys business to fail due to folks judging him on a forum. I’d personally gladly give them a shot and test them, but I am pretty well set with lead core bullets right now and I’m poor - My thoughts.

 

[SMC_GUIDE]

I’m really not understanding why everyone is jumping on this guy. He’s trying to improve on a difficult line of products to improve on. Monometal bullets likely will never be able to compete with lead core bullets, but people can be successful with this. People on this thread jumped on this dude from the get go and hadn’t tested his bullets fully. Also, not everyone is a great communicator and I’m sure he would agree he did not do the best at that. If you are interested in them but don’t want to blow a deer or elk hunt at the risk of a bad bullet, maybe go kill some coyotes or something with them and see if they upset how you want. I don’t want this guys business to fail due to folks judging him on a forum. I’d personally gladly give them a shot and test them, but I am pretty well set with lead core bullets right now and I’m poor - My thoughts.

Thank you sir. Im trying to run multiple businesses and answer whatever I can. The forums thread is terminal reports and I'm trying to stay on that topic. Anyone is welcome to post whatever they get with our bullets on here.

 

[SMC_GUIDE]

93gr Copper Rose, single feed. BC had to be corrected to .450 G1 to get hits past 500 yards using a Garmin Xero live per shot. .450 G1 worked from muzzle to 1,100 yards in two states.




First animal. Elk, 2,980fps impact. Stumbled approx 30 yards after hit. No blood at all in snow.



Entrance through scapula:

Shoulder pulled up-
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Fascia removed-
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Entrance from Inside the rib cage- clear yawing
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Onside lung- elongated wound:
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Offside lung, elongated wound-
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Exit through ribs with most of the bullet caught in the offside scapula, however a small piece did exit completely.

Exit ribs,
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Exit side, scapula pulled up. It’s hard to see, however the exit through the ribs was an elongated wound as well- it’s more visible in the wound in the shoulder.

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You can see the bullet diameter hole through the hide where a piece exited-
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Overall the bullet preformed well. It very clearly yawed immediately after impacting the scapula, and continued all the way through the chest. How much of the yaw is due to the high impact velocity and/or the bone impact are the questions.

The low BC is a hindrance, however if this bullet consistently behaves this way (short neck length and then yawing), it will be the most damaging monolithic I have seen.

Thanks for giving them a try.

 

[TxLite]

I’m really not understanding why everyone is jumping on this guy. He’s trying to improve on a difficult line of products to improve on. Monometal bullets likely will never be able to compete with lead core bullets, but people can be successful with this. People on this thread jumped on this dude from the get go and hadn’t tested his bullets fully. Also, not everyone is a great communicator and I’m sure he would agree he did not do the best at that. If you are interested in them but don’t want to blow a deer or elk hunt at the risk of a bad bullet, maybe go kill some coyotes or something with them and see if they upset how you want. I don’t want this guys business to fail due to folks judging him on a forum. I’d personally gladly give them a shot and test them, but I am pretty well set with lead core bullets right now and I’m poor - My thoughts.

Agreed. A lot of negativity here without personal experience with them specifically. This isn’t the first small business we’ve seen pummeled on here.

I understand skepticism but no need to constantly bash products people haven’t given a proper chance to.

 

[atmat]

I don’t think anyone is bashing them. Many of us have asked questions that the owner has flat out refused to answer or even respond to.

Mind you, this is a thread he created to engage the forum. Yet he seemingly doesn’t want to engage beyond surface level

 

[28bang]

They talked plenty of trash without using them before this thread

 

[bowrunner81]

I don’t think anyone is bashing them. Many of us have asked questions that the owner has flat out refused to answer or even respond to.

Mind you, this is a thread he created to engage the forum. Yet he seemingly doesn’t want to engage beyond surface level

What have you asked that wasn’t answered? Maybe the guy missed the question.

 

[SDHNTR]

Agreed. A lot of negativity here without personal experience with them specifically. This isn’t the first small business we’ve seen pummeled on here.

I understand skepticism but no need to constantly bash products people haven’t given a proper chance to.

No one is bashing. Just honest questions being asked… And not directly answered.

 

[atmat]

What have you asked that wasn’t answered? Maybe the guy missed the question.

Read the thread dude.

 

[bowrunner81]

Read the thread dude.

I’ve read it all partner. You’ve asked 0 questions about his product.

 

[atmat]

I’ve read it all partner. You’ve asked 0 questions about his product.

*Sigh*

Who is asking you to pull it down?

I went through and started to quote all the unanswered questions by others but decided it wasn’t worth the effort. If you couldn’t read them the first time, you won’t read them with me reposting.

Cheers.

 

[bowrunner81]

*Sigh*


I went through and started to quote all the unanswered questions by others but decided it wasn’t worth the effort. If you couldn’t read them the first time, you won’t read them with me reposting.

Cheers.

Cool story

 

[atmat]

Cool story

You stated definitely that I’ve asked zero unanswered questions, so I showed you where I did.

Yet you respond like a child. Cmon man, at least engage honestly.

 

[SMC_GUIDE]

You stated definitely that I’ve asked zero unanswered questions, so I showed you where I did.

Yet you respond like a child. Cmon man, at least engage honestly.

Exactly what question from you can I answer sir? Mabe I missed it but I have not seen a direct question from you. I will not answer questions that have to do with proprietary information but I will do my best. I am not able to keep up with everything said so if I missed something feel free to ask.

 

[bowrunner81]

You stated definitely that I’ve asked zero unanswered questions, so I showed you where I did.

Yet you respond like a child. Cmon man, at least engage honestly.

You didn’t provide any legit questions out the products that you asked the owner. You asked if it was against Rokslide policies to post what he posted and other similar questions. Nothing that gave the dude an chance. And you responded to me in a more respectful manner than a child?? You told me to go read the thread, dude… which I had already done.

I’m fine to agree to disagree on this.

 

[SMC_GUIDE]

22 Creedmoor
71GR Copper Rose
3335MV
250 Yards
Pushing 300 pound boar
Entry back of lungs, Exited right in front of back leg. Boar went 30 yards up hill, spun around a couple times and went down. Probably 30 seconds or so. Pictures are in order of bullets path.

 

[HuntHarder]

You didn’t provide any legit questions out the products that you asked the owner. You asked if it was against Rokslide policies to post what he posted and other similar questions. Nothing that gave the dude an chance. And you responded to me in a more respectful manner than a child?? You told me to go read the thread, dude… which I had already done.

I’m fine to agree to disagree on this.

I think "dude needs to re-read the thread"

 

[SDHNTR]

22 Creedmoor
71GR Copper Rose
3335MV
250 Yards
Pushing 300 pound boar
Entry back of lungs, Exited right in front of back leg. Boar went 30 yards up hill, spun around a couple times and went down. Probably 30 seconds or so. Pictures are in order of bullets path.

I must say, that’s pretty impressive. But is it me or are those bullets seated excessively long? How much bullet is left in the neck?

 

[HuntHarder]

I was thinking the same thing on the seating depth. Looks like those are really long. Im thinking the overall length of the bullet is really long being at 71 grains and no lead.

 

[roadrunner]

I’m really not understanding why everyone is jumping on this guy. He’s trying to improve on a difficult line of products to improve on. Monometal bullets likely will never be able to compete with lead core bullets, but people can be successful with this. People on this thread jumped on this dude from the get go and hadn’t tested his bullets fully. Also, not everyone is a great communicator and I’m sure he would agree he did not do the best at that. If you are interested in them but don’t want to blow a deer or elk hunt at the risk of a bad bullet, maybe go kill some coyotes or something with them and see if they upset how you want. I don’t want this guys business to fail due to folks judging him on a forum. I’d personally gladly give them a shot and test them, but I am pretty well set with lead core bullets right now and I’m poor - My thoughts.

You'd be surprised at how many people don't even know what Rokslide is and/or don't give a flying rip what anyone's judgemental opinions are on RS. The business won't fail because of negative Rokslide opinions...