Mausers?

[SchwarzStock]

Hopefully, they don't DOGE my job when I get back or over here.

I think your organization is going to be very busy once Hegseth starts work!

 

[Mojave]

Not really nervous, but you never know. I was a couple of months from the skin of my teeth when Obama kicked half the military out in 2012. Got to retire, but it was close. Half of my office got fired.

 

[mapticon]

I have a sporterized Springfield 1903, basically an American Mauser. I'm dumbfounded that this rifle manufactured in 1935 can consistently shoot 1moa with Hornady American Whitetail.

 

[BLJ]

Since the Mauser guys are all in one spot I’m going to throw out a question.
My rifle has been drilled and tapped a long time ago.
Whoever did the work used 2 different sizes Weaver bases.
The drill and tap job doesn’t seem to be a standard hole spacing.
I bought an EGW rail at one time to try and use it and the holes didn’t line up. So rail mount rings are out.
My question is, does any know if some good offset 1” or 30mm rings that fit Weaver bases?
It looks to me that I need an offset front ring in order to get proper eye relief.
Reason for new rings is that leave a lot to be desired.
I can’t get the bases to come up to torque (set to 30 inch pounds) and the bottom half of the rings are visibly out of round.
So, sticking with the current Weaver bases, what’s a good set of rings for a 40-50mm objective? Thanks.

 

[Mtnmilsurp]

Since the Mauser guys are all in one spot I’m going to throw out a question.
My rifle has been drilled and tapped a long time ago.
Whoever did the work used 2 different sizes Weaver bases.
The drill and tap job doesn’t seem to be a standard hole spacing.
I bought an EGW rail at one time to try and use it and the holes didn’t line up. So rail mount ringsView attachment 800287View attachment 800288

The front receiver holes probably work with the front holes on an EGW pic rail. Mount the EGW rail on the front ring and the rear hole will probably be between the two rear holes in the receiver. Using a drill press, drill through the rear pic rail hole into the receiver to create a new hole and tap it. Plug the two old rear holes with a380 loctited screws and file flush. Now epoxy bed your pic rail to receiver and Bob’s your uncle. I did this on a couple of my old mausers and it worked great.

 

[BLJ]

You ended up with 2 holes in the front and 1 in the back? No issues? Thanks.

 

[Tmac]

An old Kimber sporterized M98 rebarrelled to 270 Win sits in my safe as a loaner. They made a bunch of these conversations, 96’s too, when just starting out and sold them in Oregon City. Just “working” rifles, cheap synthetic stock and decent accuracy.

A CZ527 in 221 Fireball with the single set trigger, aka mini Mauser, is a favorite varmint rifle. Sits in a nice piece of wood and is one of the most accurate rifles I've ever shot.

 

[Wrench]

I went to school with one of Hermon Waldron's grandsons and lived near the Biesens. I have always had a spot for those rifles. I have a 98 in 35 Whelen in progress right now.

 

[Wapiti1]

You ended up with 2 holes in the front and 1 in the back? No issues? Thanks.

The original turn in mounts from Redfield, Weaver and Leupold were only 3 screws. 2 front, 1 rear to fit the military actions that still had the charger hump.

Looking at the photos, your front ring looks correct, and the rear bridge is drilled too far back. The above solution will work fine as long as the holes aren't overlapping. Or take it to a gunsmith to have the holes welded up and correctly drilled.

Jeremy

 

[Wapiti1]

I've built a lot of rifles using Mauser 98 pattern actions both military and commercial. Have a couple in the shop now, a Mexican 1936 destined to be a 7X57, and a VZ24 9.3X64 Brenneke. I wish the Mexican wasn't hard to find in good shape, they make superb light weight rifles.

Jeremy

 

[tt_johnsclist]

Took my German 98 for a walk today. It’s been rebarreled to 450 BM and I did the stock work myself.

 

[Mtnmilsurp]

You ended up with 2 holes in the front and 1 in the back? No issues? Thanks.

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[Wapiti1]

Took my German 98 for a walk today. It’s been rebarreled to 450 BM and I did the stock work myself.
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And a fine looking job on the stock. Well played.

Jeremy

 

[49ereric]

Never took my 44 K98 sporter out but astigmatism so open sights are not good for me.
I do take the scoped 42 K98 out but a wildcat cartridge.

 

[SchwarzStock]

Since the Mauser guys are all in one spot I’m going to throw out a question.
My rifle has been drilled and tapped a long time ago.
Whoever did the work used 2 different sizes Weaver bases.
The drill and tap job doesn’t seem to be a standard hole spacing.
I bought an EGW rail at one time to try and use it and the holes didn’t line up. So rail mount rings are out.
My question is, does any know if some good offset 1” or 30mm rings that fit Weaver bases?
It looks to me that I need an offset front ring in order to get proper eye relief.
Reason for new rings is that leave a lot to be desired.
I can’t get the bases to come up to torque (set to 30 inch pounds) and the bottom half of the rings are visibly out of round.
So, sticking with the current Weaver bases, what’s a good set of rings for a 40-50mm objective? Thanks. View attachment 800287View attachment 800288

Are you sure you want your scope slid that far to the rear? I like my scopes to have the ocular about even with the end of the rear tang? You may have to crane your head a bit shooting from a sitting position but you won't be getting scope eye in the prone. That is something I see with a lot of German hunters' rifles, the scopes are all mounted for shooting from a sitting position since they shoot primarily at a bench at the range or from a high seat hunting.

 

[BLJ]

I don’t lean into it very hard. And with this stock design and LOP, that’s where the view through the ocular is best.
Fortunately never had an issue with scope eye.

 

[adamm88]

I have a Husqvarna from the 60s that i inherited in 3006 that is a mauser action and similar to original, It had issues with the safety and was a real pain getting anyone to even look at it.

 

[SchwarzStock]

in the late 1990's I picked up two "Walter Röll Mausers". Both were stutzens (full-stock carbines) in 8mm. They looked like twins until you examined them closely. Both had Hensold scopes in claw mounts but the small details were different such as the trigger shapes. At the time I was in frequent contact with Speed and he dated the two at late 1944 and 1946. They were exactly 100 numbers apart and neither had a "Mauser" stamp on them but the 1944 gun had the usual proofs for the time while the later gun did not. It is well known that Herr Röll (head of commercial production) took a lot of parts home when the war ended and before the French seized everything. There are reports that later the French sold a lot of remaining parts to Herr Röll. He then continued selling sporting rifles for years afterward and these occasionally pop up here for sale. When I retired from the Army in 2002 Speed talked me into selling the two guns to a collector in Texas....

I wrote an article about the two in "The Accurate Rifle" circa 2001, I'll see if I can track down some of those photos.

I was able to track down some of the old photos this morning. As I said the rifles looked like twins until you looked closely. The later rifle is a so called "Ersatz Square bridge", a block was soldered to the rear receiver ring that was then used to create the rear scope base. Both had the front scope bases dovetailed into the receiver ring. This is now forbidden in Germany, if a barrel must be replaced the proof houses will not approve the gun so any like this have a diminished value. A gunsmith I know here says if this was done by Mauser or a gunsmith following Mauser's standard it is safe but many of these were cut by gunsmiths much deeper than the Mauser design. Same thing goes for the Mannlicher Schönauers with bases dovetailed in the receiver ring.