Mathews bow for 2016

[roadrunner]

I can't imagine using different bows for different scenarios/hunts. How can a person possibly be "one" with their bow (especially archery equipment) if they are using several. I don't even feel comfortable taking a bow hunting until I have shot it to the point everything about it is second nature. Different strokes for different folks I suppose. Good luck.

Yep, that's why I went back to only one bow and got a bow press that is portable. I once had three bows, all a little different and all shot a little different. Granted, it wouldn't take too long to get the feel of each one after a few shots, but, I would prefer to be very efficient and accurate with one bow.

At first glance, this new bow from Mathews looks odd, but I'm sure it looks different in real life - as mentioned. And like most all new bows from top brands likely shoots very well.

 

[d90rick]

Using a couple different bows is really not that difficult, for me atleast. I shoot quite a bit all year long and have them all tuned for me and will not hunt with them until I am totally confident with them. Not really a big deal, if I am heading to the open country out west for example and know I will be taking my wake, that's all I shoot the few weeks prior to it simulating the type of shots I will likely encounter. It probably also helps that they are from the same manufacturer as far as the feel, grip etc go. Guys who hunt a lot of different animals with rifles do the same thing.

 

[Will_m]

There's a guy on AT who looks like he's having some tunability issues with the rig but it is hitting its prescribed speeds, for what thats worth. I have to admit, I like the looks of the bow and I'm glad to see that waffle riser go. Seems like the general consensus on the draw cycle and shootability are pretty positive on it, I just hope that tuning problem is an isolated thing. I do wish they would offer it in 80 pounds limbs though. Sure hope my shop gets them soon so I can shoot one and stop speculating. It's keeping me from my 80 pound Impulse.

 

[BackcountryMT]

There's a guy on AT who looks like he's having some tunability issues with the rig but it is hitting its prescribed speeds, for what thats worth. I have to admit, I like the looks of the bow and I'm glad to see that waffle riser go. Seems like the general consensus on the draw cycle and shootability are pretty positive on it, I just hope that tuning problem is an isolated thing. I do wish they would offer it in 80 pounds limbs though. Sure hope my shop gets them soon so I can shoot one and stop speculating. It's keeping me from my 80 pound Impulse.

Do you know what issues he was having?

 

[d90rick]

It was getting a bullet hole paper tuning, to get it he had to sent the rest at 1" so he swapped the shims next to the cam around, made a few other adjustments such a grip (which he said he would explain later) but now has it all set up. He admits he is picky with tuning and plays around with things. If you read the thread it wasn't much of a big deal. I played with shims on my wake as well but found it liked a stiffer spine arrow (260 but with 50gr insert) and all is good now.

 

[jmez]

I really take all of those tuning threads with a large, large grain of salt. These bows are designed and tested for a year prior to them hitting the shops. I would bet if you took most any bow made, set it up to factory specs and put it in a Hooter Shooter they would tune extremely easy a with little adjustment.

IMO bows are easy to tune. Shooting a bow consistently and correctly is extremely difficult and takes a lot of practice. I think most all tuning issues come back to user error. Couple that with anonymous people on the internet and you have a recipe for failure.

This was really brought to light with me a few years ago after I took some professional shooting lessons. I had been shooting bows for 30 years and thought I was knowledgeable and pretty good at it. What I found out was that I had gotten pretty good at shooting really poorly. From grip, posture, right through the release. My shooting has improved exponentially since I took lessons. I was one of those I've been doing this for 30 years and this bow won't tune guys.

 

[d90rick]

excellent point jmez! if everyone realized that, half the chatter on AT would cease...

 

[airlocksniffer]

This was really brought to light with me a few years ago after I took some professional shooting lessons. I had been shooting bows for 30 years and thought I was knowledgeable and pretty good at it. What I found out was that I had gotten pretty good at shooting really poorly. From grip, posture, right through the release. My shooting has improved exponentially since I took lessons. I was one of those I've been doing this for 30 years and this bow won't tune guys.

I've thought about this as well. I've only been shooting two years and while I do okay, I feel like some lessons would help. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for how long of instruction?

 

[jmez]

It was $25/half an hour or $40 for a full hour.

 

[airlocksniffer]

It was $25/half an hour or $40 for a full hour.

How long did you do? Thanks for the info.

 

[jmez]

I did the hour. I took 6 or 8 lessons. At the same time I spent an entire winter and spring blind bale shooting. I took the sight completely off of my bow.

 

[tipsntails7]

I really take all of those tuning threads with a large, large grain of salt. These bows are designed and tested for a year prior to them hitting the shops. I would bet if you took most any bow made, set it up to factory specs and put it in a Hooter Shooter they would tune extremely easy a with little adjustment.

IMO bows are easy to tune. Shooting a bow consistently and correctly is extremely difficult and takes a lot of practice. I think most all tuning issues come back to user error. Couple that with anonymous people on the internet and you have a recipe for failure.

This was really brought to light with me a few years ago after I took some professional shooting lessons. I had been shooting bows for 30 years and thought I was knowledgeable and pretty good at it. What I found out was that I had gotten pretty good at shooting really poorly. From grip, posture, right through the release. My shooting has improved exponentially since I took lessons. I was one of those I've been doing this for 30 years and this bow won't tune guys.

Good point jmez, but I will say for bows that don't have yokes, if it's not right from the factory, your SOL.

 

[BackcountryMT]

Good point jmez, but I will say for bows that don't have yokes, if it's not right from the factory, your SOL.

Sometimes. I have tuned and sold over 40 Elites in the last six months. As long as my cams are timed and my spine is good a perfect center shot and a 90 degree nock level will produce a bullet hole every time.

I always laugh when people bitch about cam lean in binary cam bows. I haven't had any broad head flight issues on mine out to 80 with slick tricks and exodus heads.

 

[tipsntails7]

Sometimes. I have tuned and sold over 40 Elites in the last six months. As long as my cams are timed and my spine is good a perfect center shot and a 90 degree nock level will produce a bullet hole every time.

I always laugh when people bitch about cam lean in binary cam bows. I haven't had any broad head flight issues on mine out to 80 with slick tricks and exodus heads.

I agree that cam lean is not quite as big a deal, bows will shoot with it. But if those elites had a limb issue, if the spacers were incorrect, if anything came from the factory tweaked, I've seen guys pull their hair out trying to tune then. But it's gotten ALOT better then it was.

 

[xcutter]

I don't think the cam lean is that big of an issue. Levi Morgan won the triple crown and world with one.

But he is Levi Morgan...

 

[BackcountryMT]

I agree that cam lean is not quite as big a deal, bows will shoot with it. But if those elites had a limb issue, if the spacers were incorrect, if anything came from the factory tweaked, I've seen guys pull their hair out trying to tune then. But it's gotten ALOT better then it was.

I have read and heard of guys moving spacers to correct lean, but I haven't seen an issue with any that I've tuned.

 

[GGFerrier]

Not saying this applies to anyone here, but I saw it and thought it was pretty funny.

 

[BackcountryMT]

Not saying this applies to anyone here, but I saw it and thought it was pretty funny.

That's a pretty common theme anymore. Lol

 

[jmez]

Bows are designed to have cam lean. It is actually limb twist as apposed to the cam "leaning." It is a counter force to cable tension and riser twist.

 

[GGFerrier]

I love my HTR, I checked out the new line up and the Halon peeked my interest. I'll shoot it and I'm sure I'll like it. But at the end of the day, all it's really going to do is get me more speed.

I'm not too concerned with speed, I can't keep my 454g arrows moving at 275fps in deer or foam targets.