Mathews 2022

[Billy Goat]

Agree,.. I also don't get all the guys that can't wait for specs/information. I work in the hunting/shooting industry and a whisper of something gets out and it is not stop question that have no real world application. Wait till the bow gets to your local shop and go try it. I can not imagine ordering a $1000-$2000 item/setup without putting hands on it.

Well pretty much every shop has to order without any information.


So it's nice when customers will do the same.

 

[Billy Goat]

Draw cycle feel the same on the 33 compared to last years? I would assume so but curious about it


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I was actually surprised by the draw cycle. The 29 was a little harsh, the 33 wasn't bad at all. I haven't liked the draw cycle on the SW cams. I have been shooting 65 as it feels a lot smoother to me than 70. And I shot 75 for a while on my vxr 31.5 and it felt about like 70. Kinda like a jump on them in that 68-70# range.


But that's just my perspective. It's all in the feel to the individual.

But the 29 was on 73# and I have been shooting mostly 50# past couple weeks. So take it for what it's worth. My hunting bow has had 65# on it 14 months now, just haven't been shooting it a lot.

I'm thinking about going back to 70# in a 33, but I don't think I'll get my hunting arrows tuned with the increase of poundage and I have 4 dozen shafts.....

 

[NCSU_Lewis]

If you look at the intergrated rest and cable guard from last year, now intergrated sight mount. Over four generations of the Vertix, that’s a lot of tech. I wouldn’t spend the money on the accessories especially if you already have a tight spot and a nice dovetail. Everyone who complained about not having an answer to the Traverse, not only is the V3X 33 a longer riser than the TRX 34, it’s faster than the traverse.

1 fps through a chrono according to this video across several arrow weights:

 

[Billy Goat]

1 fps through a chrono according to this video across several arrow weights:

Without watching that, are both bows exact same weight and draw length?

I don't doubt it, but I was thinking the SW cams were a touch faster than the CC3 cams.

 

[hodgeman]

I loved the smoothness of the No-Cam. But I’m curious why the V3X is interesting to you rather than the V3? Is it the ATA?


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I really like how smooth my No-Cam is. It is a really easy bow to shoot well. I'm interested in a longer ATA because I shoot mainly open country.

 

[NCSU_Lewis]

Without watching that, are both bows exact same weight and draw length?

I don't doubt it, but I was thinking the SW cams were a touch faster than the CC3 cams.

Yeah they were both at 70.5# and 29.5". Several arrows from 372gr up to 560gr and every single set was a difference of 1fps in favor of V3X. Only other difference I noticed was v3x was a whisker biscuit and traverse was drop away.

 

[dkime]

Few numbers:

The 29"
420 grain arrow @ 292.5 Fps
490 grain arrow @ 268.5 Fps.
Avg of 3 shots.

Actually pulling 73#. E mods, should be 28", actually 28 9/16".

The 33"
395 grain arrow @ 298 Fps
420 grain arrow @ 285 Fps
490 grain arrow @ 268 Fps.

Actually pulling 70.5#. F mods that are supposed to be 29" but it was actually 29.5".


Also put 65# 28.5 mods on the 33. It that put the 420 gr arrow @ 273.5 fps. It was actually drawing 65# and 28 15/16" DL.

Overall, except for the ghey grey, I like them. Nothing drastic as everyone already knows. The sight mount is neat. The lo-pro quiver won't work with anything except the new sight mount system, you can use any of the older quivers on the new bows.


As of a few hours ago, mid February delivery on a order placed now.....

I just ran the numbers on your 490gr shaft setup, I'm going to assume you didn't have a peep in the bows but even if you did its an atrocious miss. a 490shaft should be moving around 282, IF the bow was actually maintaining an accurate draw length. I don't normally get too tore up over things in life, but the fact that it is widely known AND ACCEPTED that manufacturers are all mislabeling draw length settings to skew them toward the longest end of the draw length tolerance to increase consumer speed is one thing. In this case it looks like the manufacturer, again, has missed the draw length setting and still cant get within 10fps of what they're claiming their IBO rating is (ON THE SLOWER BOW) let alone the one that is suppose to be shooting 340?

I don't give a shit about speed ratings because I shoot 270fps with a hunting rig and 280 with an ASA rig, what I care about is supporting a company that's products don't need grossly inflated ratings AKA lies to sell the product. Last year was the first Elite that I've owned that had the exact same draw length issue, the only difference is it still made IBO at the setting. I wanted to own one of these bows but until more data comes out and I hope it does. I really want to be wrong in this situation, I really love how these bows shoot, I want to support mathews as I love their engineering. But in this case its no different than buying your components overseas and flying the flag on your website. Its a moral problem for me.

If anyone has more measured data, Id absolutely love to see it.

 

[Billy Goat]

I just ran the numbers on your 490gr shaft setup, I'm going to assume you didn't have a peep in the bows but even if you did its an atrocious miss. a 490shaft should be moving around 282, IF the bow was actually maintaining an accurate draw length. I don't normally get too tore up over things in life, but the fact that it is widely known AND ACCEPTED that manufacturers are all mislabeling draw length settings to skew them toward the longest end of the draw length tolerance to increase consumer speed is one thing. In this case it looks like the manufacturer, again, has missed the draw length setting and still cant get within 10fps of what they're claiming their IBO rating is (ON THE SLOWER BOW) let alone the one that is suppose to be shooting 340?

I don't give a shit about speed ratings because I shoot 270fps with a hunting rig and 280 with an ASA rig, what I care about is supporting a company that's products don't need grossly inflated ratings AKA lies to sell the product. Last year was the first Elite that I've owned that had the exact same draw length issue, the only difference is it still made IBO at the setting. I wanted to own one of these bows but until more data comes out and I hope it does. I really want to be wrong in this situation, I really love how these bows shoot, I want to support mathews as I love their engineering. But in this case its no different than buying your components overseas and flying the flag on your website. Its a moral problem for me.

If anyone has more measured data, Id absolutely love to see it.

Nothing but a loop.

I think a lot of the problem is the cam is out of it's performance window, but even at that it's probably still 12 fps off on the rating at true draw length.

Which I think is pretty common anymore as you said. Just like claimed weights on bows.


I think my VXR 31.5 @ 65# 28.5"- actual 28 15/16" was launching a 330 @ 316 fps. That's with a large Hamskea raptor peep installed. If you grant the 15 fps for 1.5 short of 30"(tho it's actually only an 1 1/16, and 4 fps for the peep, that's still 335 fps on a rated 343 bow. The 29" V3 you would think would get closer to the claimed 340 since it's got a little less string weight than a 31.5, but they added some weight to the cams I assume with the tabs for the field system.


Don't know. Those are just the numbers I got on my Chrono that has always seemed accurate.

 

[cured_ham]

Can anyone compare a Traverse drawing 31.5 to the new 33 drawing 31.5? I was not a fan of the V3 or VXR at the top of the cam and am wondering if this one is different.

 

[ApeComic]

My local shop was so backed up with ppl wanting to shoot i just left. Be interesting to see what other major brands release.

 

[StopMakingSense]

I love all the hate! I get my V3X 33 in a few more days and I'm excited!!

When I was originally looking at buying the VXR 31.5 coming from a Halon 32 I compared the Traverse and VXR. I definitely found the VXR to not be as smooth as the Traverse on the draw but loved the VXR's stability by a long shot. I'm so happy that the two had a child as it was exactly what I wanted from both bows and it feels that way after shooting.

I was elated talking to MBG that they were releasing a new dovetail ASAP as they just found out about it on release and were taken by surprise.

Oh, if you want a VXR 31.5 or VXR 28, shoot me a PM, it's about to go on the classifieds for y'all

 

[feanor]

My local shop was so backed up with ppl wanting to shoot i just left. Be interesting to see what other major brands release.

I just shot the Prime Inline 33”. I just ordered the Prime Inline 33”. Felt way better than the V3x. ( which I came in to shoot originally). I have my Halon 32 as a backup now.

 

[ApeComic]

I just shot the Prime Inline 33”. I just ordered the Prime Inline 33”. Felt way better than the V3x. ( which I came in to shoot originally). I have my Halon 32 as a backup now.

I'll be interested to check them all out. Thanks for the feed back!

 

[westrnwild]

I just shot the Prime Inline 33”. I just ordered the Prime Inline 33”. Felt way better than the V3x. ( which I came in to shoot originally). I have my Halon 32 as a backup now.

I wanna know how those primes tune. The way the cams are different sizes still and the one limb stop vs two and few other things they did. I'm curious to see how they set up with a broadhead. They felt good. But I am skeptical. Like buying a new truck with an unproven motor.

Be curious once you get yours

As for the Mathews. I thought the 33 hit the mark for western guys.

 

[dkime]

I wanna know how those primes tune. The way the cams are different sizes still and the one limb stop vs two and few other things they did. I'm curious to see how they set up with a broadhead. They felt good. But I am skeptical. Like buying a new truck with an unproven motor.

Be curious once you get yours

As for the Mathews. I thought the 33 hit the mark for western guys.

Timing dots make it super simple especially with the new fixed draw stop locations


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[TheTone]

I’m hoping to shoot both the inline 3 and the Mathews next week, wish they were at the same shop but unfortunately not. I’ve currently got a prime so curious to try the new cam. I like the prime fit and finish as well as all the color options. On specs alone the v3x 33 is really appealing to me

 

[feanor]

I hope it tunes up nicely as well. I’ll post when I get it and see how it shakes out.

 

[cured_ham]

V3x was stiff (not hard to pull just stiff) and dumped a lot at the top of the cam (set to 31.5) but was super well balanced and held very nice. Prefer the draw of my Traverse to this. Hold and stability of V3X won over Traverse. If my draw was a half inch shorter I would have a hard time not getting one.

 

[Billy Goat]

V3x was stiff (not hard to pull just stiff) and dumped a lot at the top of the cam (set to 31.5) but was super well balanced and held very nice. Prefer the draw of my Traverse to this. Hold and stability of V3X won over Traverse. If my draw was a half inch shorter I would have a hard time not getting one.

That dump is usually from the 85% mods. The 80% isn't as bad.


That's what I notice anyways.

 

[laltaffer]

That dump is usually from the 85% mods. The 80% isn't as bad.


That's what I notice anyways.

What kind of speed is usually gained with the 80?


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