Mathews 2022

[Reburn]

NO NO NO

The bow manufacturers would never.......I repeat never fudge their IBO numbers for sales.

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[jmez]

QAD has a patent on the dovetail rest mount.

The new dovetail sight mount is compatible with most sights. Saw on AT today that MBG is not one of them.

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[7raptor]

Nothing earth shattering but it looks like it’s going to be a 29 inch and 33 inch offering with switchweight cams and a internal dovetail mount 5 pin sight presumably by Axcel. Will make those in the Traverse market happy, new quiver coming out too.

Mathews in 2021: Our short hunting bows are awesome, so stable, the future!
Mathews in 2022: We made our short hunting bows longer, so they're more stable!

 

[satchamo]

Very interested in the 33 in model. That’s the closest they have come to the traverse. I’d buy the bow for nothing more than that quiver setup right now though I’m hearing rumors it’s $250!

 

[wayoh22]

Overall I think it'd be fair to say that it was a productive, yet stale release for Mathews. I think they nailed it with their approach to the market. I think (and this is purely speculation) that they saw their main competitors (Hoyt and PSE) marking their flag ship bows up in that $1500-$2000 MSRP price range which inevitably is a tough pill to swallow for the average joe hunter. By staying lower in MSRP, that opened the door to hit their consumers with genuine Matthews accessories and make the difference up there.

Advancements:

Having the dovetail run through the riser is a brilliant idea. Hoyt took a stab at that concept with the picatinny rail system and I think I've only seen one, maybe two sights made for it? Balance seems to be the name of the game now.

The SAS system is a great idea; however, I can't imagine many people ever using it nor more importantly knowing enough about tuning/fixing in the field to use it. It's just a niche product that those who know how will use it WHEN they need it. Maybe a cheap insurance policy, if you will, for the backcountry.

Negatives:

I've only seen 2 common ones.

1. Slower bow. I won't say much on this but if 8fps ruffles your jimmies, then I think you have bigger issues to worry about. That number comes from V3 31' @ IBO 342fps and VX3 33' @ IBO 336fps

2. They didn't do anything to the grip. I feel like I've read/seen a lot in the past few years that the Mathews stock grip is pretty narrow. I think this is more so a personal choice and not something Mathews or any bow manufacture can change and make EVERYONE happy.

As others here and on other platforms have said, I think until something revolutionary comes out, companies are micro-refining specs and accessories. Matthews took advantage of the accessory game this year with the quiver, SAS system, integrated rest, etc...but the price point for some of these is crazy. $250 for a quiver that I can only use on their bow? Maybe it has compatibility with older models but if I, personally, was to pay that much for a quiver, it would have to be a buy once, cry once situation in that I can use it on any bow in the future if I was to ever switch to another brand.

Just my $0.02...

 

[CB4]

$250 for a quiver that I can only use on their bow? Maybe it has compatibility with older models

I asked this as I have a v3 and was told the new quivers are NOT compatible.

 

[wayoh22]

I asked this as I have a v3 and was told the new quivers are NOT compatible.

I'm not surprised to hear that, it makes sense from a marketing perspective. Probably isn't something easy to implement from an engineering perspective as well

 

[TheBootBowhunting]

The #1 thing Mathews needs to address, for years now, is the factory strings. The platform is solid. The bow shoots lights out. VXR is easily my favorite bow. Im a Mathews guy. But you shouldnt have to buy a 1200 bow, then turn around and spend another 150ish on strings. PSE has the string thing figured out. Time for Mathews to step up their string game.

 

[jmez]

I'd guess the quivers will be compatible going forward. That is what really matters. Very few people would downgrade bows.

 

[WCB]

You mean you don’t get on the hype train every year when a tweaked version of the flagship bows from the year before that was based on the flagships from the year before that gets re-released just to be 2 fps faster with the same brace height?!?!

"OMG! This new bow is dead in the hands and quiet" Yeah pretty much every upper end bow and most mid range bows are as well. "OMG! this site mounts through the riser...AMAZING"

People think the gun industry is outdated and not progressing...Archery is behind them along with all their stupid...COMING IN 2022...REVOLUTIONARY...BEST EVER...LIGHTEST, MOST FORGIVING.

What did you do new?

Added length changed the IBO 10 fps and gave you the option of a couple new colors....oh yeah our old accessories and a bunch of popular 3rd party accessories are not compatible.

 

[TheTone]

Anyone know the riser length difference between the V3 31 and x33?

 

[laltaffer]

Anyone know the riser length difference between the V3 31 and x33?

I think Lancaster said the 33 riser is longer than the TRX34 riser if that helps


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[Kularrow]

If you look at the intergrated rest and cable guard from last year, now intergrated sight mount. Over four generations of the Vertix, that’s a lot of tech. I wouldn’t spend the money on the accessories especially if you already have a tight spot and a nice dovetail. Everyone who complained about not having an answer to the Traverse, not only is the V3X 33 a longer riser than the TRX 34, it’s faster than the traverse.

 

[laltaffer]

Coming from a 31.5 VXR I’m curious how it feels. I don’t love the thought of buying a new quiver but will definitely be playing with it as soon as I can.


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[satchamo]

Overall I think it'd be fair to say that it was a productive, yet stale release for Mathews. I think they nailed it with their approach to the market. I think (and this is purely speculation) that they saw their main competitors (Hoyt and PSE) marking their flag ship bows up in that $1500-$2000 MSRP price range which inevitably is a tough pill to swallow for the average joe hunter. By staying lower in MSRP, that opened the door to hit their consumers with genuine Matthews accessories and make the difference up there.

Advancements:

Having the dovetail run through the riser is a brilliant idea. Hoyt took a stab at that concept with the picatinny rail system and I think I've only seen one, maybe two sights made for it? Balance seems to be the name of the game now.

The SAS system is a great idea; however, I can't imagine many people ever using it nor more importantly knowing enough about tuning/fixing in the field to use it. It's just a niche product that those who know how will use it WHEN they need it. Maybe a cheap insurance policy, if you will, for the backcountry.

Negatives:

I've only seen 2 common ones.

1. Slower bow. I won't say much on this but if 8fps ruffles your jimmies, then I think you have bigger issues to worry about. That number comes from V3 31' @ IBO 342fps and VX3 33' @ IBO 336fps

2. They didn't do anything to the grip. I feel like I've read/seen a lot in the past few years that the Mathews stock grip is pretty narrow. I think this is more so a personal choice and not something Mathews or any bow manufacture can change and make EVERYONE happy.

As others here and on other platforms have said, I think until something revolutionary comes out, companies are micro-refining specs and accessories. Matthews took advantage of the accessory game this year with the quiver, SAS system, integrated rest, etc...but the price point for some of these is crazy. $250 for a quiver that I can only use on their bow? Maybe it has compatibility with older models but if I, personally, was to pay that much for a quiver, it would have to be a buy once, cry once situation in that I can use it on any bow in the future if I was to ever switch to another brand.

Just my $0.02...

The grip…. Mathews can never seem to get it right. I have no idea how they always manage to put the torquiest (made that up) grips on their bows but they do….

Also I tried side plates on my traverse but with a Hamskea trinity - that rest started beating the hell out of my hand after every shot. So I had to eventually get a bee real grip. It’s a great grip but kind of stupid to buy a $1000+ bow and have to replace the damn grip.

 

[jlaner0408]

"OMG! This new bow is dead in the hands and quiet" Yeah pretty much every upper end bow and most mid range bows are as well. "OMG! this site mounts through the riser...AMAZING"

People think the gun industry is outdated and not progressing...Archery is behind them along with all their stupid...COMING IN 2022...REVOLUTIONARY...BEST EVER...LIGHTEST, MOST FORGIVING.

What did you do new?

Added length changed the IBO 10 fps and gave you the option of a couple new colors....oh yeah our old accessories and a bunch of popular 3rd party accessories are not compatible.

Kind of like all the “influencers” out there trying to hype it as much as they can claiming revolutionary designs that will change everything as we know it haha.

And I’m not just ragging on Mathews for it. It’s really across the board with all companies.

 

[OutdoorAg]

It’s really across the board with all companies.

This. @jlaner0408 is right. Look at the optics world. Minute changes in performance, jumps in price, repeat.

Hornady is brilliant at this. Hey here’s another 6.5 cartridge that’s 125fps faster. Buy it!

But for whatever reason, matthews garners a lot of hate for doing it.

I suppose they’d be better off doing a flagship every other year, but it’s the way of the industry.

 

[Billy Goat]

Few numbers:

The 29"
420 grain arrow @ 292.5 Fps
490 grain arrow @ 268.5 Fps.
Avg of 3 shots.

Actually pulling 73#. E mods, should be 28", actually 28 9/16".

The 33"
395 grain arrow @ 298 Fps
420 grain arrow @ 285 Fps
490 grain arrow @ 268 Fps.

Actually pulling 70.5#. F mods that are supposed to be 29" but it was actually 29.5".


Also put 65# 28.5 mods on the 33. It that put the 420 gr arrow @ 273.5 fps. It was actually drawing 65# and 28 15/16" DL.

Overall, except for the ghey grey, I like them. Nothing drastic as everyone already knows. The sight mount is neat. The lo-pro quiver won't work with anything except the new sight mount system, you can use any of the older quivers on the new bows.


As of a few hours ago, mid February delivery on a order placed now.....

 

[laltaffer]

Few numbers:

The 29"
420 grain arrow @ 292.5 Fps
490 grain arrow @ 268.5 Fps.
Avg of 3 shots.

Actually pulling 73#. E mods, should be 28", actually 28 9/16".

The 33"
395 grain arrow @ 298 Fps
420 grain arrow @ 285 Fps
490 grain arrow @ 268 Fps.

Actually pulling 70.5#. F mods that are supposed to be 29" but it was actually 29.5".


Also put 65# 28.5 mods on the 33. It that put the 420 gr arrow @ 273.5 fps. It was actually drawing 65# and 28 15/16" DL.

Overall, except for the ghey grey, I like them. Nothing drastic as everyone already knows. The sight mount is neat. The lo-pro quiver won't work with anything except the new sight mount system, you can use any of the older quivers on the new bows.


As of a few hours ago, mid February delivery on a order placed now.....

Draw cycle feel the same on the 33 compared to last years? I would assume so but curious about it


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[WCB]

This. @jlaner0408 is right. Look at the optics world. Minute changes in performance, jumps in price, repeat.

Hornady is brilliant at this. Hey here’s another 6.5 cartridge that’s 125fps faster. Buy it!

But for whatever reason, matthews garners a lot of hate for doing it.

I suppose they’d be better off doing a flagship every other year, but it’s the way of the industry.

Agree,.. I also don't get all the guys that can't wait for specs/information. I work in the hunting/shooting industry and a whisper of something gets out and it is not stop question that have no real world application. Wait till the bow gets to your local shop and go try it. I can not imagine ordering a $1000-$2000 item/setup without putting hands on it.