Match bullets vs early hunting bullets

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Thin jacket and no bonding.
Your assertion that extra bullet length- which in this case means increased SD, in a fragmenting bullet doesn’t cause increased penetration is objectively false. When a thin jacketed, fragmenting bullet remains point forward, the longer it is- all else being equal, the deeper it penetrates at the same impact velocity. There is simply more bullet to fragment (lose) while still maintaining sufficient mass to continue penetration.

WHOA! So energy does matter. You just stated the two components of the mechanical system the directly relate to energy.

Well done! I knew you'd get there eventually 😉
 

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WHOA! So energy does matter. You just stated the two components of the mechanical system the directly relate to energy.

Well done! I knew you'd get there eventually 😉

No. Ft-lbs of energy doesn’t tell anyone what wound depth, width, and overall shape bullets will create.
 

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Sometimes you just gotta kill some shit with different tools and see the results. It's a lot harder to hear than it is to see.
 

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No. Ft-lbs of energy doesn’t tell anyone what wound depth, width, and overall shape bullets will create.
Well it's true that energy can't tell you what shape or form a wound channel will make but is it possible it could measure wound volume roughly. I mean comparatively a 162 grain bullet of identical construction to a bullet weighing 75 grains impacting at the same velocity would make a larger wound cavity correct?
 

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WHOA! So energy does matter. You just stated the two components of the mechanical system the directly relate to energy.

Well done! I knew you'd get there eventually 😉
What kind of energy? I'll assume you mean KE, though you probably know those are also the factors that make up momentum, so you might as well have just said slow and heavy is better. ;)
 

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What does deparrment of defense have to do with hunting?
Terminal ballistics testing….tissue is tissue, and FBI terminal ballistics testing in gel gives a pretty good indication of how bullets will perform on meat/bone/hide
 
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What kind of energy? I'll assume you mean KE, though you probably know those are also the factors that make up momentum, so you might as well have just said slow and heavy is better. ;)

The energy relationship is the area under the momentum curve, so yes, they are related.

The point is, you need to conserve as much energy as possible so there is enough of the velocity component to do what's needed on the bullet - the upper and lower limits under the momentum curve.

Slow and heavy could be better, depends on the application.
 
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