Looking for a Wyoming resident hunting partner

[Wyo_hntr]

This is redundant. Preventing and regulating are synonyms here.

Non-residents can hunt Wilderness areas legally if they simply follow regulations. You are insinuating they are banned.

Now go tell Alaska you have the right to hunt Dall sheep without a guide. Then go bitch to new mexico who allocate tags specifically to guided hunters.

 

[wyogoat]

Everyone complaining about the Federal land restriction realizes it’s not ALL Federal land right? Just a small percentage?
You also can’t just go hunt Ferlderally owned Reservation land. Is that of issue as well?

 

[Jethro]

This has probably been asked before but I’m a non resident. I think I have enough points to draw H next year. Wondering if there’s any residents I could talk into going with me into the wilderness areas during the archery next year. Looking for someone that has hunted multiple days out of a backpack. I have horses or goats that I could pack both of our supplies and food. I’m willing to do all of my own scouting as well. I would mainly be interested in the archery hunt. If anyone is interested or can point me in the right direction on where to find someone you can send me a message to figure out details. I can’t afford an outfitter so not looking for that.

Stay engaged on forums, get to know people, and what you’re trying to accomplish is possible. Certainly doesn’t happen everyday though. We’ve done it. Made friends with a resident on a forum. By dumb luck our spot A was his spot A. He took our names and info and got his resident guide paper without ever meeting us in person.

We’ve hunted together about 5x now. Been with him in the wilderness many times. We’ve killed 7 elk. Amazingly none were in the wilderness.

Good luck to you

 

[Sadler]

OP, if at all possible, get involved in conservation efforts in Wyoming. Volunteer time in the summer and meet people that way. To me that seems like the best way to do it. One, it shows your invested in the states elk and two, you’ll be around others with the exact same mindset. Invite them to your state to hunt as well. Maybe offer that up first before asking them to take you into the wilderness?

 

[ZackBarnes]

Stay engaged on forums, get to know people, and what you’re trying to accomplish is possible. Certainly doesn’t happen everyday though. We’ve done it. Made friends with a resident on a forum. By dumb luck our spot A was his spot A. He took our names and info and got his resident guide paper without ever meeting us in person.

We’ve hunted together about 5x now. Been with him in the wilderness many times. We’ve killed 7 elk. Amazingly none were in the wilderness.

Good luck to you

Thanks, good to hear it’s possible to find someone through a forum. I knew it wouldn’t be easy as I’m sure there’s plenty of non residents looking to get into the wilderness areas.

 

[ZackBarnes]

OP, if at all possible, get involved in conservation efforts in Wyoming. Volunteer time in the summer and meet people that way. To me that seems like the best way to do it. One, it shows your invested in the states elk and two, you’ll be around others with the exact same mindset. Invite them to your state to hunt as well. Maybe offer that up first before asking them to take you into the wilderness?

Good ideas thanks. Never hunted Wyoming so wasn’t sure about how to go about finding residents so I appreciate the input.

 

[cnelk]

I hunted a wilderness with a resident guide back in 2015.

There were more people there than my OTC area in Colorado.
Haven’t been back in a Wyo wilderness since. Haven’t needed to.

 

[ZackBarnes]

I should’ve put in the original post that I’m hunting deer not elk to that may change things.

 

[Wyo_hntr]

I should’ve put in the original post that I’m hunting deer not elk to that may change things.

For the region you mentioned, you could have a pretty damn good hunt never setting foot in a wilderness area.

 

[FAAFO]

Non-residents can hunt Wilderness areas legally if they simply follow regulations. You are insinuating they are banned.

Now go tell Alaska you have the right to hunt Dall sheep without a guide. Then go bitch to new mexico who allocate tags specifically to guided hunters.

Stop making sense!

 

[FAAFO]

How about this? NR can only hunt wilderness?

Rokslide Randy would be super disappointed in most of the wilderness areas.

 

[grfox92]

People willingness to openly promote breaking the law on a public forum, regarding this issue is pretty crazy. The law needs to be obeyed weather you agree with it or not.

You don't need to be in the wilderness to kill animals in Wyoming. My best mule deer spot is in a non wilderness area. It is full of non residents every year and is a great spot to kill a buck or a bull. There are many like it, and it's in an area that is highly regarded as somewhere that can't be hunted due the the amount of wilderness butted right up the the road.

 

[ThorM465]

People willingness to openly promote breaking the law on a public forum, regarding this issue is pretty crazy. The law needs to be obeyed weather you agree with it or not.

You don't need to be in the wilderness to kill animals in Wyoming. My best mule deer spot is in a non wilderness area. It is full of non residents every year and is a great spot to kill a buck or a bull. There are many like it, and it's in an area that is highly regarded as somewhere that can't be hunted due the the amount of wilderness butted right up the the road.

The fact that we went from napster to karens demanding that we not be allowed to openly question the state on the internet within one generation is insane. This attitude is antithetical to the American Ethos.

I'll never get over seeing how the majority of "Americans" across my great country mindlessly followed the Unconstitutional edicts of governors during covid and how many were quick to turn you in if you dare defy them. The memory alone literally brings tears to my eyes.

It's time we returned to the American Ethos where we tell the state to F off at the very appearance of it crossing the line of authority given to it by the Fed or State Constitution. The peaceful disobedience of unjust laws is one of the most powerful nonviolent tools we have to combat an over reaching state. When you deny that tool, when you deny even being able to openly discuss nonviolent tactics, you make violence the only viable tactics.

 

[Archer86]

You don't need to be in the wilderness to kill animals in Wyoming. My best mule deer spot is in a non wilderness area. It is full of non residents every year and is a great spot to kill a buck or a bull. There are many like it, and it's in an area that is highly regarded as somewhere that can't be hunted due the the amount of wilderness butted right up the the road.

This is the most overlooked part. Every area that has wilderness has hunting as good in the non wilderness areas. It's just since they can't go there it has to be better....the only thing you are likely to see more of in wilderness areas is outfitters with wealthy NR hunters and it's not just a few go into the therofare in September outfitters are everywhere

 

[Wyo_hntr]

The fact that we went from napster to karens demanding that we not be allowed to openly question the state on the internet within one generation is insane. This attitude is antithetical to the American Ethos.

I'll never get over seeing how the majority of "Americans" across my great country mindlessly followed the Unconstitutional edicts of governors during covid and how many were quick to turn you in if you dare defy them. The memory alone literally brings tears to my eyes.

It's time we returned to the American Ethos where we tell the state to F off at the very appearance of it crossing the line of authority given to it by the Fed or State Constitution. The peaceful disobedience of unjust laws is one of the most powerful nonviolent tools we have to combat an over reaching state. When you deny that tool, when you deny even being able to openly discuss nonviolent tactics, you make violence the only viable tactics.

That's a really nice soliloquy, but irrelevant for the discussion. The state of Wyoming is well within its rights to regulate the take of animals held in its trust.

Which is why other states do the same. Again, try to hunt alaska's dall sheep on federal property without a guide.

 

[grfox92]

The fact that we went from napster to karens demanding that we not be allowed to openly question the state on the internet within one generation is insane. This attitude is antithetical to the American Ethos.

I'll never get over seeing how the majority of "Americans" across my great country mindlessly followed the Unconstitutional edicts of governors during covid and how many were quick to turn you in if you dare defy them. The memory alone literally brings tears to my eyes.

It's time we returned to the American Ethos where we tell the state to F off at the very appearance of it crossing the line of authority given to it by the Fed or State Constitution. The peaceful disobedience of unjust laws is one of the most powerful nonviolent tools we have to combat an over reaching state. When you deny that tool, when you deny even being able to openly discuss nonviolent tactics, you make violence the only viable tactics.

This is irrelevant to the point I'm making. People are actively encouraging people to break the law. There are also people encouraging others to fight legally to CHANGE that law. One is honorable, was is degenerate activity. Sneaking into wilderness does nothing to change an unjust law.

Where do you draw the line? I feel there aren't enough tags given out in my draw unit I hunt for elk, should I go and shoot 2 bulls because I know the heard can support it or should I follow the law and go plead my case for tag allocations at the meetings?
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[ThorM465]

That's a really nice soliloquy, but irrelevant for the discussion. The state of Wyoming is well within its rights to regulate the take of animals held in its trust.

Which is why other states do the same. Again, try to hunt alaska's dall sheep on federal property without a guide.

Again this thread has nothing to do with Alaska. Go start that thread and I'll explain to you why you're wrong there too.

This is irrelevant to the point I'm making. People are actively encouraging people to break the law. There are also people encouraging others to fight legally to CHANGE that law. One is honorable, was is degenerate activity. Sneaking into wilderness does nothing to change an unjust law.

Where do you draw the line? I feel there aren't enough tags given out in my draw unit I hunt for elk, should I go and shoot 2 bulls because I know the heard can support it or should I follow the law and go please my case for tag allocations at the meetings?
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The cognitive dissonance in your opening statement is astounding. There's nothing degenerative about ignoring corrupt and unjust laws that harm no one. That's about as American as it gets.

The line is a function of who's harmed or not harmed, the level of corruption, and the feasibility of other available options. In a system where you have no voice in the management of property you have a right to as a tax payer, where the state that was given their authority in good faith is openly acting corruptly, choosing defiance at the risk of defined consequences is reasonable whether you agree with it or not.

 

[Jason Snyder]

@ThorM465 go hunt the wilderness, take your ticket and then run it up through the appellate courts. Put your money where your mouth is.

 

[Archer86]

Again this thread has nothing to do with Alaska. Go start that thread and I'll explain to you why you're wrong there too.



The cognitive dissonance in your opening statement is astounding. There's nothing degenerative about ignoring corrupt and unjust laws that harm no one. That's about as American as it gets.

The line is a function of who's harmed or not harmed, the level of corruption, and the feasibility of other available options. In a system where you have no voice in the management of property you have a right to as a tax payer, where the state that was given their authority in good faith is openly acting corruptly, choosing defiance at the risk of defined consequences is reasonable whether you agree with it or not.

You can acess the land all you want just can't take big game which you have no say in being a nr to the great state of wyoming.

Life must really suck not living in the west

 

[Wyo_hntr]

Again this thread has nothing to do with Alaska. Go start that thread and I'll explain to you why you're wrong there too.

It is literally the exact same issue. The only difference is, apparently you don't want to hunt in Alaska.

You've dug a hole, with no intelligent way to get out, so you're doubling down on dumb. It's been explained to you about a dozen times now and you either don't get it or refuse to acknowledge reality.

You can go access the wilderness. You just can't hunt Wyoming's big game animals there without a guide or resident guide. It's lawful and very simple.