Longest someone has applied for a Unit or hunt

[Beendare]

I drew 111-115 rifle with 4 this year

You sir beat the thousands to one odds- congrats

 

[Andrew12gauge]

You sir beat the thousands to one odds- congrats

I know, you said at the end of your rant that somebody would, I just had to do it. I’m not usually the guy that beats the odds, I’m usually more of the guy that when there are 258 applicants for 250 tags I’m in the group of 8 who don’t draw(this actually happened to me a few years ago)


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[Pharmseller]

Bighorn sheep and Mountain goat in Oregon are both once in a lifetime tags. Neither carry preference points. I’ve been putting in for each for decades.

Decades, I tell you.




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[tkhuntsman]

I saw another post from a feller who has been applying for 30 years without drawing in Washington. I was just curious if anyones got this beat? So what's the longest you have applied for a particular hunt or unit without drawing?

28 years for moose and Sheep in CO

 

[Beendare]

I know, you said at the end of your rant that somebody would, I just had to do it. I’m not usually the guy that beats the odds, I’m usually more of the guy that when there are 258 applicants for 250 tags I’m in the group of 8 who don’t draw(this actually happened to me a few years ago)

Yeah, thats why the states use that system....so that the folks just applying or are only a few years in actually have a chance of drawing. The stories of someone like yourself drawing keeps them paying their license fees and applying even though it's a snowballs chance of drawing a tag.

The ONLY reason I keep applying in NV with 23 points and less than 1/2 of one percent chance of drawing an elk tag is I'm hoping they might change the system to wash through some of the high point holders like myself. Probably a snowballs chance of that too.

 

[6mm Remington]

I wish everyone much success next year!

 

[WRO]

Since we are Ranting.....grin

I think it's fine to wait years for a tag....if you know what you are getting yourself into. The problem with some of these states is they change the rules years down the line after one has many years of application fees invested.

Nevada has become a terrible state to apply in as a non res. Their system of squaring your points sounded good in the beginning...but now with hundreds of thousands of applicants also squaring their points....and less tags for non res....the good units have become an extreme longshot.

Arizona cut the tags in half for non res about 11 years ago which made the already crazy point creep accelerate and increasing the time it would take to draw a non res tag. It had to, they just don't offer enough tags to run the non res through.

Now-a-days a non res guy should know what he is up against with all of the internet info out there- including this thread here on Rokslide.

Right now it's about 18 years for a non res to draw an Elk tag in Unit 1 AZ, count on that being about 30 years or more if you are starting now.

Starting now for NV elk, A 30 yr old guy just might die on the list if waiting for a good unit in NV- it's that bad.

Now watch, the one in 200,000 guy that drew an elk tag with 2 points will chime in claiming I'm wrong

Az put half the tags in a random draw, I drew early Bull random my first year applying.

The non res tag allocation in nv far outweighs the amount of tags, points or no points it wouldn’t matter.

I’m 30 years into OR oils, I drew walla walla with 20 points guaranteed, my best friend drew it random with 10.

I’ve drawn multiple randoms, but I don’t chase the hard tags anymore. Waiting 20 years taught me I could’ve killed 5 or 6 bulls in lesser units and probably a bigger one if I just hunted other places more. Besides that, the weight of 20 years of waiting and a 100+ days of scouting ruined the experience for me.


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[DLSJR]

I drew a Desert Bighorn tag in my home state, California, after applying for 34 consecutive years.

Of the six times I’ve hunted sheep, it was by far the most enjoyable sheep hunt and worth that long wait.

We ended 2020 perfectly, killing a great old ram after sunset on December 31 and started 2021 off in grand style by waiting for the sun to come up so we could take photos, then packing him off the mountain early on New Years Day.

 

[Randy11]

My dad started putting in for moose in MT in 1974, and still hasn't drawn.

He had max points on the original system, and now obviously has max on the new system as well. I think he had a hard time pretending to be happy when I drew on year 18.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Imagine investing that time and money. Now imagine a bunch of whiney hunters that cry "it's not fair". Then see your decades of time, money, and discipline be wiped away all because of some entitled brats.

Rant over.

A lot of this is self induced. I get it for moose, goat, and sheep, but if you want to hunt deer, antelope, or elk, then put in for a unit you can draw. If you put in for 76 bull moose every year, then you aren’t going to draw. Start putting in for the highest odds and you’ll draw faster. I’m referring to western states for the most part, I understand elk in Midwest and eastern states aren’t easy to draw.

 

[Greenringer]

33 years for moose in Maine. I think it’s probably the same for Montana sheep as well. I’ve never drawn a tag that I wasn’t in the preference point pool. Kind of sobering really when you think about nonresident draw odds.

 

[Rogue Bay]

Az put half the tags in a random draw, I drew early Bull random my first year applying.

The non res tag allocation in nv far outweighs the amount of tags, points or no points it wouldn’t matter.

I’m 30 years into OR oils, I drew walla walla with 20 points guaranteed, my best friend drew it random with 10.

I’ve drawn multiple randoms, but I don’t chase the hard tags anymore. Waiting 20 years taught me I could’ve killed 5 or 6 bulls in lesser units and probably a bigger one if I just hunted other places more. Besides that, the weight of 20 years of waiting and a 100+ days of scouting ruined the experience for me.


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I drew one of the big 3 last year with max points and it was way too much pressure and stress. It really zapped some of the fun out of it for me. Like you, I could have drawn several decent bull tags and had more great hunts. I’m making up for lost time now, though.

 

[Rogue Bay]

Some people certainly seem to have better luck than others. I’ve only ever drawn one tag off schedule, so I’m definitely not one of those guys.

I know several people in Montana that are 30+ years into applying for resident moose, then I know one guy who drew a second time two years after his seven year waiting period ended. He and his wife had both already drawn bighorn sheep tags as well.

 

[Scottyboy]

I ‘think’ (because the MN DNR and their website are trash, so there is no way of verifying the number of years). I should be around 25-30yrs into MN elk. Granted, it’s a super small tag allocation but the applicants are also relatively small, some day. Unless they keep changing the draw rules like they did this year

 

[mtblackdog]

34 years for Montana sheep and Im a resident.

 

[eaglemountainman]

This is my 37th year applying for Maine moose. The drawing is the 21st of this month, so we'll see if this is the year I finally get some love. Hard to believe I was a young man of 31 when I started applying.....

 

[Sooner]

19 points for OK elk.

 

[buckpro]

Not at long as most of you, but I have applied to every western state for elk, deer, sheep, goats and moose for 13 years(minus CA and just collect points for antelope) and every single raffle out there for a solid 7. Another 13 years of that and I could buy a few sheep hunts.