California went to a draw for Elk in 1959, that’s when I started putting in. I stopped when I left the state in 2012, did skip ‘68 & ‘69 due to a little place called VietNam. That’s 51 yrs without drawing, did make first alternate once but no one turned their tag back. Started putting in for Moose in 2013 in Montana, gave up in 2022, getting too old and stove up now plus tired of annual donations for astronomical odds against drawing.