Loading with new brass

[vmals]

Im fairly new to reloading so forgive the newb question. I have Redding dies with standard expander ball. With new adg brass are they good to go to seat the bullet or should I full length size them? I would back off the die to not bump the shoulder.

 

[Chris in TN]

I've never used ADG brass but as a general rule unless a new case has an obviously out of round neck I just load and shoot. You could argue for chamfering the inside of the neck first, or running them over your expander ball, but....ehhh, whatever. If the necks look decently round and you're using boattail bullets, I'd just load and shoot.

 

[vmals]

I've never used ADG brass but as a general rule unless a new case has an obviously out of round neck I just load and shoot. You could argue for chamfering the inside of the neck first, or running them over your expander ball, but....ehhh, whatever. If the necks look decently round and you're using boattail bullets, I'd just load and shoot.

They come in a pretty case so all the brass is in perfect condition. I will just load and shoot, thanks!

 

[rbaney]

As was previously mentioned, that is what I did with the ADG Brass I received for my 6.8 Western. I am slowly going up in powder now hoping to get 3000 Fps out of 150 SST. So far all the brass has been spot on and works great in my Winchester XPR Rifle.

 

[vmals]

As was previously mentioned, that is what I did with the ADG Brass I received for my 6.8 Western. I am slowly going up in powder now hoping to get 3000 Fps out of 150 SST. So far all the brass has been spot on and works great in my Winchester XPR Rifle.

Nice. Im loading this adg brass for the 6.8 w as well.

 

[rbaney]

I am using Ramshot Grand for powder and started at 65 grs and got a littlie over 2915 average for 5 shots then tried 65.5 gr and got 2940ish for 5 shot average. So I loaded up 5 more at 66 and will see how that goes. Good luck on your load development.

 

[wapitibob]

My new ADG brass had burrs on both sides of the neck and untrimmed. .005 in length difference wasn't bad but the burrs on the necks were atrocious.

 

[vmals]

I am using Ramshot Grand for powder and started at 65 grs and got a littlie over 2915 average for 5 shots then tried 65.5 gr and got 2940ish for 5 shot average. So I loaded up 5 more at 66 and will see how that goes. Good luck on your load development.

Found an accurate load for the 170 EOL. 62 gr of h1000 at 2880. Right at hodgon book max and got me the same velocity they list. Seekins ph2 with 24" barrel. That was literally my first go at reloading and have been sticking with it so far. 62.5 and 63 gr opened up a decent amount and I didnt test over that. I did do a ladder test with the 175g skg but they didnt shoot well at all with the h1000. Didnt explore further because it was close to hunting season. I want to try the 165 ablrs next.

 

[vmals]

My new ADG brass had burrs on both sides of the neck and untrimmed. .005 in length difference wasn't bad but the burrs on the necks were atrocious.

Thanks I will look them over.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

I run them in my die quick and chamfer the case mouth, that way my seating force and neck tension are set by the tools I am planning to use. Not at least chamfering has shaved copper off the bullet when seating in the past.

 

[Pickettpuncher]

I got some alpha brass and I’ve ran into several issues not resizing the cases. Biggest issue is neck tension, which surprised me. Some loaded normally and some have loaded like I wasn’t seating a bullet. Inconsistent velocities. Groups are fine at 100, but will most likely be compounded further out. I used to never size new brass, but I will from now on

 

[HuntHarder]

I typically mandrel, a quick chamfer and load them up. Amazing how many necks are out of round, even on high quality brass.

 

[Vern400]

I hit Lapua with a neck expander and roll with it.
They even remove the primer hole burrs from the inside.

 

[wapitibob]

I run a custom sized expander ( 30 cal turned down to .288) thru every piece of new brass before reloading, and also run it thru every piece of fired brass before I reload those. I want every case neck to be as close to the same as I can get them before I run them thru my die.

 

[Lawnboi]

Depends on the brass.

Premium brass might need a mandrel. I measure first. Some does, some dosnt. If I do mandrel I use a wet lube and tumble afterwards.

If I don’t need to mandrel I still dry tumble it. Annealed necks are gritty and a lot of the extra seating force guys are seeing is coming from the friction between the bullet and neck. Some time in in a tumbler with some dirty media knocks that down.

After that a chamfer and debur and I’m loading.

Lately with alpha it goes in the tumbler, through the giraud and is ready to go and shoot anything, including a match. I was running a mandrel and didn’t see it as worth it after a while. Knocking down that more abrasive squeaky clean annealed neck is more important that an extra thou of neck tension.

I have never needed to size new brass.

 

[Backcast88]

I typically mandrel, a quick chamfer and load them up. Amazing how many necks are out of round, even on high quality brass.

this is exactly what i do and have had zero issues with new brass

 

[TaperPin]

Unless the factory can read your mind and produce exactly the same neck tension your dies create I’d resize them unless you don’t care about neck tension and some random number is ok.

You also can’t chamfer the mouth evenly if it isn’t round, but everyone who doesn’t resize them will try.

The neck lube makes a difference in the force to seat the bullet. I don’t really care what the factory uses, if anything, but normal resizing takes care of that as well. Maybe you don’t care how much or what kind of lube is in there, if any.

I’ve had brass that was squished a little in the middle and there’s no way it would chamber, resizing takes care of those issues.

Finally, if necks are known to be out of round, bodies are known to be squished, odds are more than one neck has been bent to the side. Maybe some people don’t care about neck straightness. I don’t even know how it could be possible to check for runout if the neck isn’t round, and if you size it there’s no need to check further.

Hornady has produced some brass in factory ammo that couldn’t be chambered because of headspace. Another reason to not trust it.

 

[TxLite]

For new ADG I give it a slight chamfer and let it eat