Lightweight takedown single shot rifle - any market for it?

[Montana Slim]

Sounds like an awesome time in NZed - LOVE that place. I don't think the OP's idea is 'useless'. The idea that everybody wants to hunt the same is a flawed one. Using that rationale, every cartridge other than (insert whatever you decided to shoot here) is obsolete and 'useless'. There's more than one way to skin a possum. A 5 lb stainless/synthetic k95 type rifle could be sweet - just not for everyone.

 

[mt100gr.]

I keep coming back my Thompson Center Encore. I have peeked into the rabbit hole a couple times and with a shorter barrel from MGM and a reasonable weight scope it would be pretty sweet little package. An 18" barrel would put it at about 34 inches overall, assembled.

To the OP - the TC is pretty slick in that a very crude (lightweight) flathead screwdriver would be all you need. The fore end stock keeps the hinge pin enclosed but torque -wise, the screws that hold the fore end to the barrel don't seem sensitive - just snug them up.

MGM barrels appear to be very good and the scope stays on the barrel.

 

[204guy]

Would not be a problem. I've already checked. Make sure you are talking to the right person and know the rules better than they do when you ask. That always helps.

Ohh, which National Park allows the transportation of animal carcasses across their land- in the backcountry?

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[Newtosavage]

Ohh, which National Park allows the transportation of animal carcasses across their land- in the backcountry?

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Can we possibly keep this about single shot takedown rifles. At all?

 

[Newtosavage]

good luck finding someone to invest their capital developing a product That is useless



I know it’s that time of year where the good idea ferry comes along and starts spreading pixie dust..


not too hard to get a rifle to get in and out of a pack. Hex head on a torque wrench. Chop ur favourite rifle to 16” and take the stock on and off. Probably takes 30 seconds tops.

I've had that idea as well. Not sure why you choose to characterize my idea as "useless" when others have chimed in in favor, but whatever. I like single shot rifles. I just haven't found one that I really "need" except for this specific purpose. Break-action single shot rifles take down easily and maintain zero with the scope left attached to the barrel. I like that simplicity. If you don't care for the idea, why bother reading the thread?

 

[Newtosavage]

I keep coming back my Thompson Center Encore. I have peeked into the rabbit hole a couple times and with a shorter barrel from MGM and a reasonable weight scope it would be pretty sweet little package. An 18" barrel would put it at about 34 inches overall, assembled.

To the OP - the TC is pretty slick in that a very crude (lightweight) flathead screwdriver would be all you need. The fore end stock keeps the hinge pin enclosed but torque -wise, the screws that hold the fore end to the barrel don't seem sensitive - just snug them up.

MGM barrels appear to be very good and the scope stays on the barrel.

So, maybe something like that but with a torque-controlled thumbscrew or a torque driver that stows away in the stock? That might work.

 

[Ndbowhunter]

I've had that idea as well. Not sure why you choose to characterize my idea as "useless" when others have chimed in in favor, but whatever. I like single shot rifles. I just haven't found one that I really "need" except for this specific purpose. Break-action single shot rifles take down easily and maintain zero with the scope left attached to the barrel. I like that simplicity. If you don't care for the idea, why bother reading the thread?

because it’s fun to argue. duh

Break barrels tend to be inaccurate, And heavy and have lots of comb.:

like I said useless.

 

[mt100gr.]

So, maybe something like that but with a torque-controlled thumbscrew or a torque driver that stows away in the stock? That might work.

Honestly, with a TC, I think you could grind a 1/4" Allen wrench into a suitable driver. Spin it between your fingers the long way to eat up threads flip it the short way to snug it up and away you go. The biggest concern for me would be the hinge pin not having a secure place for transport....it'd be easy to lose and when not assembled.

 

[mt100gr.]

I actually just fiddled with my TC a few minutes ago. It's been on my mind lately again with visits from the good idea fairy...and now this thread.

I did a little number crunching and with a "factory taper" 18 inch barrel from MGM it would probably come in around 5.7lbs bare. I'm not sure how deeply they flute metal but they have some pretty wild options that would lose some metal if they cut it very deep.

I also timed myself to reassemble it and 48ish seconds with zero practice seemed OK.

 

[Rob5589]

Personally, a TC frame, light contoured 22" barrel in 7/08, some hand laid carbon fiber furniture, and the swfa 2.5-10 ultra light scope sounds cool to me. Use some custom thumb screws for the handguard to be completely tool-less. Different strokes and all...

 

[jeffpg]

I have been wanting something like this too.

In addition to mountain hunting, I also have a Yamaha TW200 trail bike and a Rambo E-bike that I use for hunting, and a backpack rifle would be very handy to have.

 

[mt100gr.]

Personally, a TC frame, light contoured 22" barrel in 7/08, some hand laid carbon fiber furniture, and the swfa 2.5-10 ultra light scope sounds cool to me. Use some custom thumb screws for the handguard to be completely tool-less. Different strokes and all...

I was thinking about carbon stock parts for the TC today! Does someone make them?

 

[philos]

I have often thought of a single shot exactly as the OP has described. A Blaser K95 sort of a rifle without the beautiful (and expensive) wood. I see this in a 308, 7mm-08 or even a 250 Savage with 18-20 inch barrel and satin stainless finish. Paired with a low profile, lightweight scope it would be ideal for deer and sheep sized critters at 300 yards or less-at least that is the way I see it.

It seems to be a niche that could be filled - seems like a big gap between the CVA, Henry types and the Merkel, Blaser rifles. I wonder if one could start with a Henry and possible get close with some modifications

 

[Newtosavage]

Now we'r talkin'

Honestly, I'd trade my stainless Tikka 7mm-08 for a rifle like this

 

[Ndbowhunter]

I think this is one instance where if you ignore the hype of carbon fibre you could make this pretty ez.

Vacuum bagging eps foam with S glass will be a lot easier then dealing with carbon and weigh identical and have nearly the same strength and impact resistence.


Honestly if you don’t want to do that just use the pink foam stuff (XPs) and hand lay it up with dropping temperature and make sure to do your calculations of epoxy correct.

I’m sure plenty of smiths with a cnc could slab your action and flute/turn down barre taper to minimum spec.

 

[Newtosavage]

whoa, whoa, whoa. Not need to get all crazy here.

Just a simple break-action single shot with (maybe) a fluted bbl and synthetic stock and (if necessary) a torque driver hidden in the stock (or not) that weighs in at 6 lbs even before you scope it and takes down without tools.

Stainless action and barrel.

38" overall length and 20/18" broken down would be easy to fit in any pack.

Assembled in less than a minute, in the dark.

No worse than 1.5 MOA

Chambered in .243, 6.5 CM, 7mm-08, .308, and .338 Fed.

Sub-$650 new

This isn't asking too much, I don't think

I'd own the hell out of one in 7mm-08 and .338 fed. and kick my Tikka to the curb with no regrets.

My daughter's CVA Hunter .243 is damn near there already but for the need for a screwdriver, 0.5 lbs., stainless steel and a little pinache'

 

[mt100gr.]

I'd own the hell out of one in 7mm-08 and .338 fed. and kick my Tikka to the curb with no regrets.

Whoa, whoa, whoa !! Now that talk about Tikka abandonment is getting borderline crazy....

 

[left hunter]

I’m wondering if something similar to the Chiappa Double badger would work (only with a single barrel). It would break in half with no tools and should weigh around 5 pounds without scope.

 

[Montana Slim]

I have been toying with the idea of a combination gun for a while now... a .222/16ga around 6lbs would be pretty ideal. Or maybe some larger rimmed cartridge with a sleeve for .22 mag and a 16ga............ now I'm off on a tangent. Sorry, guess my german heritage is taking over!

 

[Newtosavage]

I have been toying with the idea of a combination gun for a while now... a .222/16ga around 6lbs would be pretty ideal. Or maybe some larger rimmed cartridge with a sleeve for .22 mag and a 16ga............ now I'm off on a tangent. Sorry, guess my german heritage is taking over!

No worries. A combo is nice too! They were very popular for a long time, for a reason!