Thank you. I will do some looking at the Vortex. It looks like you can get the windage caps for it too. I know I am going to buy a vortex spotting scope. so might go with the vortex rifle scope too. This is turning into an expensive year. The cabelas points are going to come in handy.
I have looked into the CDS. What I'd do is get the CDS knob, but have it marked as any other quarter MOA turret. Basically you'd be getting a lower profile M1. I'm a believer in learning either the MOA or Mil system vs a CDS system. It's just as easy, and much more versatile IMO. A VX3 CDS is a nice light scope. Their 1" scopes offer more than enough MOA adjustments for extended range shooting, which is nice when trying to keep weight down.
Vortex also makes good stuff. Buy with confidence either way.
It looks like you can get the windage caps for it too.
Whisky, I believe the CDS scopes come standard with a MOA cap. Then you send off your data for an additional custom cap.
I agree that learning and angle measurment system (or preferably both) is the best way to become an all-around proficient long range shooter. I don't think it is as easy as a BDC turret system at the ranges the OP is talking. Instead of range-check dope-dial-shoot, it is range-dial-shoot. Custom caps are more than precise enough on game sized targets 600 and in.
I don't think BDC caps are the way to go once you get past 600. There are too many variables that start to really affect trajectory once you get past there. An angle of measurement correcting scope and good data make for better corrections at those ranges.
BB- On the vortex I did want to get into longer range shots would you recommend the BDC or the or go with the first focal plane xlr. Right now I have my limit as 600 because that is what I was able to do with the scope. But I think it might be fun to practice at longer ranges if I could. Definitely provide an opportunity for learning.
First focal plane (FFP) reticles are properly subtended at all magnifications, that is their advantage over second focal plane (SFP) reticles.
I am OK with SFP reticles, because if I am going to be shooting at a range where I need to use them, I am going to run it up to max power anyway.