So just an update on this....I was at REI the other day to try on some Salomon Quest 4 GTX's. Those boots didn't work for me at all, but they had the La Sportiva Aequilibrium LT's that I linked above on sale...they had a size 46 Euro in stock so I said what the heck I'll try 'em on (I'm normally a 45 Euro). Holy cow they actually fit and actually felt really good. They were not overly long and the width was perfect. I wore them around the store for like 10 mins, played around on the little rock step thing REI has and bought them. I put on my 50 lb K4 yesterday and went and did 2 miles at a local trail (not really and kind of knarly stuff, but some elevation change). No hot spots, no heel slip. Granted they are a stiff boot (similar to my HanWag Alaska GTX in stiffness I would say, and also similar to a Lowa Tibet and Kenetrek Mountain Extreme) but I didn't find them overly difficult to hike in. They are much lighter than the stiff boot options, as the size 46 (labeled 12.5 US) came in at 3.5lb's for the pair on my scale (vs 4.25 lbs for the pair for my Hanwags) ...not a super light boot, but you do get a lot of support and 'boot' in that package. I figure it will take about 40 miles to get them really broken in. I would say if they fit, and a person likes a lighter but stiffer boot, these would work for western archery elk and mule deer where the terrain dictates.