KRG Echo - Sporterish version of bravo for tikkas

[BLJ]

No worries.

I removed the bolt handle, firing pin assembly, plunger ejector, and extractor. I sent the bolt body only. Honesty just bc it was easier to package; he didn’t need it disassembled. I did the plunger & extractor bc I’m picky and didn’t want to find plier marks on them when it got back (not saying it would, I’ve only heard good things about Kinport Peak, but I’ve dealt with many gunsmiths and if I can do something myself I will).

As far as magazines, I specifically tested this a couple hundred times with each version using three different dummy rounds that had the bullet seated to various lengths. @Juan_ID had posted that they worked fine which was actually my tipping point for going ahead with the build. I was concerned that the extractor could bind up on the case rim, and if closing the bolt slowly it’s very slightly more perceptible than a standard 308 version, but otherwise it’s as though it was made by Tikka from the factory. Works flawlessly. The M magazine does feel like it feeds a touch smoother than the S magazines though. But again I didn’t have any hangups running the bolt slow to fast & in-between.

I imagine theoretically that the bolt face modification could cause headspace issues, but I have all three gauges and it was right where it needed to be for the one barrel I’ve tried thus far.

Hope that helps! I have zero regrets, Tikka should offer this as a factory option. I’d buy two or three immediately.

That answers everything. Appreciate it.

 

[Moose83]

Mine sure seems too, I kept thinking the recoil lug was not nesting into the slot of the action. I used some machinist die to convince myself it was actually assembled.

Ya... that captured front action screw does make things a bit difficult. I poked at mine with a dental pick and it seems fully seated.

 

[General RE LEE]

I originally got the Echo specifically for a CTR bc I’ve had more than a few issues with the mags. Couldn’t wait to get a better stock & get factory mags. As mentioned you do need the mag retention spring.
Nothing wrong with a 10lb rifle in the mountains! I switched from Bravo to Echo and prefer it. The magazine system is way batter. Then I got a second one to try in the lighter contour. But the Rokstok is winning that comparison. After a few hundred rounds, Rokstok is better for Lite contour barrel but the Echo hangs in there right behind it. Echo is better for the CTR, way too nose heavy in the Rokstok. The Rokstok is off getting a 1” Decelerator currently or I’d have included comparison pics.

Do have to mention: haven’t had a single issue with factory mags in use but they don’t click into place easily with either one of my Echos. Hangs up on the front end. If you push up on the forward section of the bottom of the mag it doesn’t happen though. If for some reason you need fast mag changes that would be a consideration.

Here are some pics of a CTR next to a Lite contour, both in the Echo.


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Great post and answers my questions on CTR and Echo.

Super dumb refresher question, especially considering I had 2 CTRs in Bravo chassis. Is the chassis itself the bottom metal? I just need to buy the chassis and the mag retention spring for CTR fit correct?

 

[Hurley88]

Great post and answers my questions on CTR and Echo.

Super dumb refresher question, especially considering I had 2 CTRs in Bravo chassis. Is the chassis itself the bottom metal? I just need to buy the chassis and the mag retention spring for CTR fit correct?

Yes for the Echo the chassis itself is the bottom metal. You’re correct, just need to buy the chassis & mag retention spring.

 

[FLShooter293]

Did anyone mount a Tikka with a Proof Sendero type profile barrel? Is there clearance? I'm waiting on an Oregon Mountain Rifle CF prefit. The shank is 1.120" for 3" then tapers to 1". I know their website says "varmint" profile at .950 at the end of the forend. If it does touch a little can it be sanded for clearance? Not sure if this is an option with the sporter contour insert. Messaged KRG and still waiting for response.

 

[swavescatter]

Did anyone mount a Tikka with a Proof Sendero type profile barrel? Is there clearance? I'm waiting on an Oregon Mountain Rifle CF prefit. The shank is 1.120" for 3" then tapers to 1". I know their website says "varmint" profile at .950 at the end of the forend. If it does touch a little can it be sanded for clearance? Not sure if this is an option with the sporter contour insert. Messaged KRG and still waiting for response.

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Yes, my 7PRC proof does great when you take out the inner spacer/contour plate...

 

[FLShooter293]

Perfect thank you swavescatter!

 

[wind gypsy]

Did anyone mount a Tikka with a Proof Sendero type profile barrel? Is there clearance? I'm waiting on an Oregon Mountain Rifle CF prefit. The shank is 1.120" for 3" then tapers to 1". I know their website says "varmint" profile at .950 at the end of the forend. If it does touch a little can it be sanded for clearance? Not sure if this is an option with the sporter contour insert. Messaged KRG and still waiting for response.

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Do you know what blanks OMR uses?

 

[FLShooter293]

Not sure what blanks. Web search seems very positive in regards to accuracy so I went with them. Not a huge CF guy but do like them on hunting rifles that will be sporting a suppressor and only shooting once or twice in a row.

 

[FLShooter293]

In case anyone is interested here’s KRG’a reply:
Sir, the Echo barrel channel can be sanded or modified to allow a larger barrel profile to work. Once the barrel channel has been widened your OMR CF barrel should work without issue. We have these barrel shrouds available if you ever need to change back to the original size or repair an issue.

 

[JDMBEND]

The grip on the Echo is ambidextrous. With some Dremel work, could a left hand action drop in it. Asking for a friend.

 

[JDMBEND]

And he wants to install a OMC cf barrel on it.

 

[Kurts86]

Here are my thoughts on the KRG Echo:

The ergonomics are really great for the price point. As someone that runs a lot of manners stocks (EH1A, PRS1, LRH) it felt really natural for a stock 1/3rd the cost of what I normally use.

The stock is just as if not more accurate than my factory Tikka stock.

The bad:

Getting the action to setup down into the stock and onto the recoil lug takes some fiddling.

It definitely flexes at the forend with a bipod. Keep that in mind when picking a barrel insert, you probably want healthy free float.

The accessories are annoying. I think I spent half the stock cost for stock lop spacers, arca rail, qd cups, thumbscrew and a pic rail. I understand why they set it up that way but I feel like you will probably order from KRG twice before you are happy.

The bolt removal is dumb and it defeats the purpose of the low profile cheek riser adjustment. If you need to clean your rifle you either need a hex key or the thumbscrew accessory.

If you get over the quirks it’s a really good stock for the money that’s actually ready to ship today. It definitely kept my Tikka build under control.

 

[ckkone]

I added the Salmon River Short Hunters Rail, got it from S&S to save a few bucks with rokslide code and no tax + free shipping. I’m really liking my Tikka T3 again, I have a late season cow hunt next week so we will see.

 

[Sundodger]

Here are my thoughts on the KRG Echo:

The ergonomics are really great for the price point. As someone that runs a lot of manners stocks (EH1A, PRS1, LRH) it felt really natural for a stock 1/3rd the cost of what I normally use.

The stock is just as if not more accurate than my factory Tikka stock.

The bad:

Getting the action to setup down into the stock and onto the recoil lug takes some fiddling.

It definitely flexes at the forend with a bipod. Keep that in mind when picking a barrel insert, you probably want healthy free float.

The accessories are annoying. I think I spent half the stock cost for stock lop spacers, arca rail, qd cups, thumbscrew and a pic rail. I understand why they set it up that way but I feel like you will probably order from KRG twice before you are happy.

The bolt removal is dumb and it defeats the purpose of the low profile cheek riser adjustment. If you need to clean your rifle you either need a hex key or the thumbscrew accessory.

If you get over the quirks it’s a really good stock for the money that’s actually ready to ship today. It definitely kept my Tikka build under control.

Great synopsis, couple things I will add.


Overall great stock with a handful of puzzling design choices in regards to cost/functionality.


The two options for barrel channel inserts are too close in size. I have both for my sporter barrel and you can’t really tell the difference unless you look really close. Either just offer the “large” barrel channel saving tooling money and qr codes by not offering the “small” or have two options that are meaningful. If they wanted to make the barrel channel inserts meaningful they could have made the barrel channel in the stock larger and kept the large one for sporters and made an even larger one for carbon barrels.


I don’t understand why the comb has a cut out when you can’t remove the bolt in the lowest position. Either get rid of the cutout and save cost or make it large enough to work. it’s in no man’s land right now (high cost, but no performance benefits).


The stock comes with two comb risers but no LOP spacers? Should be the other way around.


I half expect them to come out with a V2 in a year or so fixing these silly things and I will be annoyed at myself for being an early adopter.

 

[mlevimadden]

I don’t understand why the comb has a cut out when you can’t remove the bolt in the lowest position. Either get rid of the cutout and save cost or make it large enough to work. it’s in no man’s land right now (high cost, but no performance benefits).

On my tikka with the long action bolt stop, the bolt is very close to contacting the back of the comb cutout when cycling but just barely clears. I think that is why the cutout is required to be able to cycle the bolt even though you have to completely remove the comb riser to remove the bolt from the action.

I fully agree with @Kurts86 synopsis above. I love the ergonomics of the stock and it's a huge improvement over the factory T3 stock. I can also easily flex the end of the fore-end when squeezing it so agree on additional clearance in the barrel channel being warranted.

I wouldn't say it was difficult to get the barreled action seated on the recoil lug since I did it first try, but it was difficult to tell if it was seated properly with the captured front action screw not letting it be fully lowered without turning the threads.

I'll add I'm only 5'10" with average wingspan and the LOP was way too short for me without spacers. Two spacers feels about perfect and were easy to install.

 

[Bluumoon]

Great synopsis, couple things I will add.


Overall great stock with a handful of puzzling design choices in regards to cost/functionality.


The two options for barrel channel inserts are too close in size. I have both for my sporter barrel and you can’t really tell the difference unless you look really close. Either just offer the “large” barrel channel saving tooling money and qr codes by not offering the “small” or have two options that are meaningful. If they wanted to make the barrel channel inserts meaningful they could have made the barrel channel in the stock larger and kept the large one for sporters and made an even larger one for carbon barrels.


I don’t understand why the comb has a cut out when you can’t remove the bolt in the lowest position. Either get rid of the cutout and save cost or make it large enough to work. it’s in no man’s land right now (high cost, but no performance benefits).


The stock comes with two comb risers but no LOP spacers? Should be the other way around.


I half expect them to come out with a V2 in a year or so fixing these silly things and I will be annoyed at myself for being an early adopter.

Magnum cartridge the cut out wasn’t deep enough and I had to do a little cutting of my own

 

[Sundodger]

Good call on the comb cut out guys, I have a SA bolt stop on mine.

I think my overall synopsis stays the same; good value stock with some puzzling choices in the cost/functionality department. Hopefully that means they make it better when they make a new version.

 

[mlevimadden]

Magnum cartridge the cut out wasn’t deep enough and I had to do a little cutting of my own

Could be a difference between actions or stocks but mine just barely clears without contact at the back of the bolt throw. It's also an older T3 instead of a T3x if that makes a difference. It started it's life as a 300WM, so magnum bolt and long action bolt stop are still installed even though it currently has a 6.5 PRC prefit on it.

 

[Bluumoon]

Could be a difference between actions or stocks but mine just barely clears without contact at the back of the bolt throw. It's also an older T3 instead of a T3x if that makes a difference. It started it's life as a 300WM, so magnum bolt and long action bolt stop are still installed even though it currently has a 6.5 PRC prefit on it.

T3x that started a a 7RM. It cycled fine and was barely touching, but I’m good at breaking stuff so I adjusted it.