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[CJ19]

Guy has done nothing but bring a positive light to archery and hunting. Had a positive influence on Trump getting elected. And y’all shit all over him just because of the broadhead he uses. Yall sound like a bunch of libs on here.

Its nothing more than people that dont like Joe Rogans show because he had a political take they dont like. You can accurately characterize him as a novice, inexperienced, or poor hunter but accusing him of not being physically able to carry a pack is silly. Its just bitter political trolls. Joe Rogan has done more to shine a positive light on hunting than 99.9% of celebrities or even hunting influencers.

 

[svivian]

Its nothing more than people that dont like Joe Rogans show because he had a political take they dont like. You can accurately characterize him as a novice, inexperienced, or poor hunter but accusing him of not being physically able to carry a pack is silly. Its just bitter political trolls. Joe Rogan has done more to shine a positive light on hunting than 99.9% of celebrities or even hunting influencers.

First off I like quite a bit of the stuff Joe Rogan puts out, i find some of his guests very interesting and I appreciate the variety he brings on the show.

However, no one on here has mentioned anything about politics, so I'm not sure why you are bringing it up?

You're painting with an equally broad brush about posters on here as the comments being made about his hunting style, abilities etc....

 

[CJ19]

First off I like quite a bit of the stuff Joe Rogan puts out, i find some of his guests very interesting and I appreciate the variety he brings on the show.

However, no one on here has mentioned anything about politics, so I'm not sure why you are bringing it up?

You're painting with an equally broad brush about posters on here as the comments being made about his hunting style, abilities etc....

Because its an accurate characterization of a podcaster that people find polarizing. And i did not bring up anything other than to say Joe Rogan has fans and non fans based solely on his political takes. Thats hardly getting political about Joe Rogan.

 

[grfox92]

First off I like quite a bit of the stuff Joe Rogan puts out, i find some of his guests very interesting and I appreciate the variety he brings on the show.

However, no one on here has mentioned anything about politics, so I'm not sure why you are bringing it up?

You're painting with an equally broad brush about posters on here as the comments being made about his hunting style, abilities etc....

I agree, I dont think its political, I think there is an element of jealousy and hate that fuels some stances.

Ive said this many times on this forum. I am not a Cam Hanes fan boy by any means, but all anyone says when they are hating on him is how he only hunts private and guided ranches and they completely gloss over the fact that Hanes killed a bull DIY on public land for 20 consecutive years and sometimes more than 1 per year in different states. But that means nothing, because now that he has money, he chose to go on sick elk hunts on private ranches. If I had a ton of money, id be traveling all over the place paying to play too, and I am possitove most of his haters would too.

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[Marbles]

Its nothing more than people that dont like Joe Rogans show because he had a political take they dont like. You can accurately characterize him as a novice, inexperienced, or poor hunter but accusing him of not being physically able to carry a pack is silly. Its just bitter political trolls. Joe Rogan has done more to shine a positive light on hunting than 99.9% of celebrities or even hunting influencers.

Well, I've not committed on his hunting, so perhaps not directed at me. But when Rogan tries to talk on a topic I know something about, he gets it wrong the few times I have listened. So, I have zero trust in anything he says.

Trying to paint everything as political only is a game for a politically motivated person who sees everyone as the same as them. So, do you like Rogan just because he agrees with your politics and despite his tendency to bullshit rather than share good information? I'll take your previous judgement as the standard, so already have the answer.

 

[CJ19]

Well, I've not committed on his hunting, so perhaps not directed at me. But when Rogan tries to talk on a topic I know something about, he gets it wrong the few times I have listened. So, I have zero trust in anything he says.

Trying to paint everything as political only is a game for a politically motivated person who sees everyone as the same as them. So, do you like Rogan just because he agrees with your politics and despite his tendency to bullshit rather than share good information? I'll take your previous judgement as the standard, so already have the answer.

I used to like Joe Rogan when i listened to him. Joe Rogan had some great podcasts when i used to listen to him a decade ago. The bob lazar one sticks out as something i thought i would have no business liking but being an all time great. As far as politics, he doesnt share my politics. I disagree with him on politics 90% of the time. But i have listned to him years ago so i probably understand some of his takes better than some of the people commenting who actually never have listened. I havent listned to him in years so maybe he changed. I cant say.

The draw for joe rogan for years was he was an incredible podcaster. When he hit the scene he was simply the best person interviewing people in that format. He allowed people to talk regardless of what positions they held. joe rogan is entertainment. Not someone i tuned into to get factual information.

As far as hunting, i suppose jealousy is a reason some hunters dont like him. Personally, i think people hating on people like him or any other hunter buying a guided private land hunt are extremely foolish. If you are a DIY public land hunter, those are the kind of people you should encourage to do their thing because you wont be running into them on your hunt. but, worldwide or across this nation far more people have an opinion about Joe Rogan based on his politics or news coverage of his supposed politics, not jealousy about his elk hunts.

 

[hunt1up]

I've listened to a bunch of Joe's podcasts of the years. Not much lately, very repetitive conversations.

I don't fault him a single bit for hunting sweet private land for elk. I'd do it every year if I had the means. I don't fault him for loving archery and elk meat. I appreciate him taking ownership of the procurement of the meat he eats. He sees the benefits in hunting that we all do.

But I wish he didn't tell 20 million dudes how they should all be hunting and eating awesome organic super duper elk meat, when he likely doesn't have two preference points to rub together. It's just dumping gas on the point creep fire. The learning curve of hunting, for novice to experienced, is a long one and he was lucky to have shortened that curve through the right relationships and financial means, which is fine. But I suspect the way he views the entire hunting world is very different from how it actually is. Like his "find another trailhead dummy" comment some time ago when talking about public land hunting. That's simply a statement of pure ignorance.

 

[Marbles]

I used to like Joe Rogan when i listened to him. Joe Rogan had some great podcasts when i used to listen to him a decade ago. The bob lazar one sticks out as something i thought i would have no business liking but being an all time great. As far as politics, he doesnt share my politics. I disagree with him on politics 90% of the time. But i have listned to him years ago so i probably understand some of his takes better than some of the people commenting who actually never have listened. I havent listned to him in years so maybe he changed. I cant say.

The draw for joe rogan for years was he was an incredible podcaster. When he hit the scene he was simply the best person interviewing people in that format. He allowed people to talk regardless of what positions they held. joe rogan is entertainment. Not someone i tuned into to get factual information.

As far as hunting, i suppose jealousy is a reason some hunters dont like him. Personally, i think people hating on people like him or any other hunter buying a guided private land hunt are extremely foolish. If you are a DIY public land hunter, those are the kind of people you should encourage to do their thing because you wont be running into them on your hunt. but, worldwide or across this nation far more people have an opinion about Joe Rogan based on his politics or news coverage of his supposed politics, not jealousy about his elk hunts.

I can see that and I appreciate the language of the last sentence that is not presented as an all statement.

It is also true that his hunting ability has no bearing on the quality of his podcast (except on hunting topics). Which my impression was that people who have listened to him on hunting think he got it wrong, but that morphed (or occurred in tandem with; I'm not ready back to see) what could come across as an attack on him only because he doesn't hunt how "we" think he should.

I read some comments as roughly, he doesn't getting hunting stuff correct, which I know about, so I don't trust him. Basically just my opinion, but different topics. He could get it correct on other thigs, but not worth my effort.

Then some were clearly a suggestion that he is an inferior human because of how he hunts. This is stupid, but an easy style of argument to fall into. The equivalent of a soldier getting tunnel vision on a single combatant when three other people in the room also want to kill him and he is responsible for not hindering his buddies. So, one might say it is the human default that must be trained over.

My opinion on Bowmar is exceptionally low. But, I have cancel culture burnout and have largely stopped giving a flaming fart in the night about who I buy stuff from, just make things that work and don't annoy me trying to sell it. I would even be willing to buy a Beast Broadhead if I knew they worked well. But, I'm not willing to research it as other options work and I'm not going out of my way to support Bowmar. Similar to how I was too lazy to call out the bad arguments and defend Rogan.

So, I find the whole discussion an amusing morass and by stepping into that swamp I certainly become part of the circus, not above it.