Joseph von Benedikt vs Formidilosus

[Archer86]

But i do it with an AR decked out in 5.11 Tactical garments.

 

[Wyobohunter]

But i do it with an AR decked out in 5.11 Tactical garments.

@Archer86 beat me to it.

 

[robby denning]

i blur the line of fudd/non fudd.

Rokslide keeps me on the non fudd side

for that im grateful

but I like to listen to JVB and Spomer, it's where i cane from...

now if Ryan would just send me my 6um already I can finally decide where I wanna be

 

[RockAndSage]

Everyone in here is a fudd if you carry a weapon in the woods to harvest animals someone considers you a fudd

I think the fact that I curve the bill of my ballcap makes me an uber-fudd to anyone who doesn't remember Reagan...

 

[Quandary]

I won't give JVB clicks so I've never listened to him, but I know him and Ron Spomer are butt buddies ........

Forgetting the apparent fact that you are homophobic, I've never met you but based on your "clips" one can only draw that conclusion, I am sure the forum would be really interested in hearing more of your opinions on things which you admit you have no knowledge. It would be highly enetertaining.

 

[Dobermann]

Fudds on .45s

Can we turn this into a disco number?

Pretty sure Ryan and Jake could replicate these dance moves ...

 

[thinhorn_AK]

JVB takes heat because he acts (literally an act) as the authority of facts regarding hunting and ethics. Half of what he says is just to sell product for his sponsors and the other half is 100 year old hunting folklore that has been disproven over and over.

For sure. It’s too predictable with JVB: browning rifles, leupold scopes, silencer central silencers, 6.8 western…..

 

[The Guide]

6.8mm Shooting Times Western

What is this new cartridge you speak of? A necked down 7mm STW? That must be a real barrel burner!

Jay

 

[Wyobohunter]

What is this new cartridge you speak of? A necked down 7mm STW? That must be a real barrel burner!

Jay

6.8 Western: What You Need to Know About the .277-Caliber Cartridge - Shooting Times

The 6.8 Western, a short-action .277-caliber rifle cartridge, is all about civilized behavior combined with fantastic downrange capability.

www.shootingtimes.com

Calling it the “Shooting Times” Western may be inaccurate.

 

[hereinaz]

I think the fact that I curve the bill of my ballcap makes me an uber-fudd to anyone who doesn't remember Reagan...

I can’t bear the thought of a flat bill, and I remember Reagan too!

 

[mitchellmountain]

While a debate sounds entertaining, listening to J Van Bullshit’s fake deep voice debate with Form’s Black Ops digitally altered voice would be a nightmare.

This is exactly where I stand, both are very difficult to listen to, but content is there for sure

 

[Davyalabama]

Brother, you're not getting it - it's the close-mindedness that is a major part of being a Fudd. Wrapped in "knowledge" that makes someone impervious to new ideas, tools, info, etc.

Virtually nobody on here arguing for smaller cartridges started off that way.

Most of us, except possibly the youngest of guys, started out as what would fairly be called "partial Fudds" - thinking we knew more than we did, very comfortable in our unrealized ignorance, but open minded to trying new things and actually following through on it.

And when we did - and when we listened to guys trying new things and the results they were getting - we incorporated changes in our views based off of those experiences.

There is a key, "when we listened." Anyone care to incorporate listening into their arsenal? Go farther into what listening really encompasses, most of us don't do it. The words listening and attention go hand in hand.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to try new things, just look at all the "old" cartridges and their parent cartridge. Many "old" cartridges wouldn't be around if someone hadn't wanted more. The "old" .270, .300 win mag., the 6.5 Remington, the 7mm mag., even the -06, now we have more spinoffs.

The problem we get into is where we don't listen or pay attention to ballistics that a computer has spit out. Old time ingenuity led to the -06, the 7 mag and the .300 win. mag, and Roy Weatherby wanted more. I'm old school, I admit it, I shoot a .300 win mag, because that's what I like, and it has been very effective for me, and I don't reload. I've killed deer with it from bow range to right at 500 yards from deep woods to over soy beans. It is a newer .300, it's a Steyr, futuristic looking gun, most think its ugly, including the deer/hogs/coyotes/bobcats that have felt it's "out of vogue" cartridge. The .300 may be your version of too much gun, your opinion, I like what it does to an animal. Does it kill them any deader than a buddies .270 or an "old" .308, nope, the trick is this.............I have confidence in it. I know what the gun/cartridge will do at different ranges, I've practiced with it, I've carried it, I've grown with it. I know what that gun will do out of a cold barrel, every time.

I still shoot 2 3/4 #4 with 1 1/2, why, because those are the shells I like to turkey hunt with, I could buy a newer gun and shoot the TSS, I just prefer to "drag" along my old 30" barrel guns, why? Nostalgia for me, when I have those guns in my hand, I still have my dad and/or my uncle with me walking beside me. I shoot 30" with doves and ducks, why, I wasn't handed down a "32."

You want to shoot a 6 creed, a .223, etc. at deer with match ammo, have at it. I'll just reach for my old .300 win. with ballistic tips, shoot for a hair on his shoulder, mess up some meat, drive my sxs to him, load him, and thank the Lord for his bounty. I don't need to try new guns and cartridges anymore, I just shoot what has worked for me. Ok, if something happens and the .300 becomes to much, I have a been passed down .280 and .260 that have taken many deer from former family, when I take those guns, I'll be taking them with me in memory too.

Forget Fudds, just some of us are "old farts" that have done this for a long time and know what works for us. It isn't we don't "see" the "so-called" benefits of these new cartridges, it's just .......... there aren't memories associated with them, they are just guns.

Now, if and when my granddaughter decides she wants to start shooting, she'll start with a Daisy bbgun, then a 1950's Sears/Springfield bolt action .22 and navigate up to something more fun in a 1970's 10/22. Now, if she decides she wants to start hunting, we will look at something that fits her, maybe a .28 mossberg youth bantam (yeah, I've been looking, I like that shorter length of pull), maybe an AR in a short barrel with 6.5 Grendel. Now if she decides she wants "old school," I have an old .243 or that .260 previously mentioned. Crap, she may even listen to someone's "podcast" or read some forum and want a 6.8 western or a .223, then we will decide together if that's for her, if it is, that's what Saba will help her earn (old school, learn to earn what you want, it will mean more.) That will be "her" gun, she chose. One day, who knows, she may take Saba's old Model 12 or 1100 (favorite uncle, the one that taught me to hunt) or A5 (dad's, we killed a many a duck and doves together) and kill a turkey/ducks/doves because that's what Saba carried or kill a nice buck with my "old" .300 Win. because that's what Saba carried. Why, because one day, prayerfully, she will know memories are more important than just another kill.

 

[Wyobohunter]

There is a key, "when we listened." Anyone care to incorporate listening into their arsenal? Go farther into what listening really encompasses, most of us don't do it. The words listening and attention go hand in hand.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to try new things, just look at all the "old" cartridges and their parent cartridge. Many "old" cartridges wouldn't be around if someone hadn't wanted more. The "old" .270, .300 win mag., the 6.5 Remington, the 7mm mag., even the -06, now we have more spinoffs.

The problem we get into is where we don't listen or pay attention to ballistics that a computer has spit out. Old time ingenuity led to the -06, the 7 mag and the .300 win. mag, and Roy Weatherby wanted more. I'm old school, I admit it, I shoot a .300 win mag, because that's what I like, and it has been very effective for me, and I don't reload. I've killed deer with it from bow range to right at 500 yards from deep woods to over soy beans. It is a newer .300, it's a Steyr, futuristic looking gun, most think its ugly, including the deer/hogs/coyotes/bobcats that have felt it's "out of vogue" cartridge. The .300 may be your version of too much gun, your opinion, I like what it does to an animal. Does it kill them any deader than a buddies .270 or an "old" .308, nope, the trick is this.............I have confidence in it. I know what the gun/cartridge will do at different ranges, I've practiced with it, I've carried it, I've grown with it. I know what that gun will do out of a cold barrel, every time.

I still shoot 2 3/4 #4 with 1 1/2, why, because those are the shells I like to turkey hunt with, I could buy a newer gun and shoot the TSS, I just prefer to "drag" along my old 30" barrel guns, why? Nostalgia for me, when I have those guns in my hand, I still have my dad and/or my uncle with me walking beside me. I shoot 30" with doves and ducks, why, I wasn't handed down a "32."

You want to shoot a 6 creed, a .223, etc. at deer with match ammo, have at it. I'll just reach for my old .300 win. with ballistic tips, shoot for a hair on his shoulder, mess up some meat, drive my sxs to him, load him, and thank the Lord for his bounty. I don't need to try new guns and cartridges anymore, I just shoot what has worked for me. Ok, if something happens and the .300 becomes to much, I have a been passed down .280 and .260 that have taken many deer from former family, when I take those guns, I'll be taking them with me in memory too.

Forget Fudds, just some of us are "old farts" that have done this for a long time and know what works for us. It isn't we don't "see" the "so-called" benefits of these new cartridges, it's just .......... there aren't memories associated with them, they are just guns.

Now, if and when my granddaughter decides she wants to start shooting, she'll start with a Daisy bbgun, then a 1950's Sears/Springfield bolt action .22 and navigate up to something more fun in a 1970's 10/22. Now, if she decides she wants to start hunting, we will look at something that fits her, maybe a .28 mossberg youth bantam (yeah, I've been looking, I like that shorter length of pull), maybe an AR in a short barrel with 6.5 Grendel. Now if she decides she wants "old school," I have an old .243 or that .260 previously mentioned. Crap, she may even listen to someone's "podcast" or read some forum and want a 6.8 western or a .223, then we will decide together if that's for her, if it is, that's what Saba will help her earn (old school, learn to earn what you want, it will mean more.) That will be "her" gun, she chose. One day, who knows, she may take Saba's old Model 12 or 1100 (favorite uncle, the one that taught me to hunt) or A5 (dad's, we killed a many a duck and doves together) and kill a turkey/ducks/doves because that's what Saba carried or kill a nice buck with my "old" .300 Win. because that's what Saba carried. Why, because one day, prayerfully, she will know memories are more important than just another kill.

Well said, thanks.

 

[wyosam]

It has been quite a few decades since I watched Looney Tunes, but I don't remember Elmer Fudd EVER kill Bugs or any other bunny!

Well obviously- re make the show but give Elmer a Tikka in 223 shooting 77tmks with a RS1.2 and a rokstock. Wile E Coyote is going to starve for the lack of rabbits left.


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[Wyobohunter]

Well obviously- re make the show but give Elmer a Tikka in 223 shooting 77tmks with a RS1.2 and a rokstock. Wile E Coyote is going to starve for the lack of rabbits left.


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Wile E. Coyote is a vegan; he’s just a bird hating masochist… kinky.

 

[Swamp Fox]

Wile E. Coyote is a vegan; he’s just a bird hating masochist… kinky.

This is crazy talk. (Ask me how I know.)

It's just that there are challenges in life, even in success.

Soup or Sonic - Wikipedia

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[Wyobohunter]

This is crazy talk. (Ask me how I know.)

It's just that there are challenges in life, even in success.

Soup or Sonic - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A like isn’t enough.