Bluto
WKR
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Okay, I would have sworn I had ring issues. Contacted Talley, they offered to take them back and spec them out. Ordered Leupold backcountry in the meantime, same exact result.
Gun is a Weatherby Cinderlite (lightweight Mark V) in .308. Bone stock. Scope is a SWFA SS 3-9x42 FFP 30mm. https://www.swfa.com/swfa-ss-hd-3-9x42-tactical-30mm-riflescope.html
All rings, bases, hardware and scope are degreased, I even wore rubber gloves this time installing. Torqued to spec, blue loctite. 4-5 shots and the scope has rotated 10-12 degrees CCW.
Anyone have ideas? I’ve never had an issue with any ring.
EDIT - for those not interested in 13 pages. Lots of curveballs, but relatively simple solution. (Hint: don’t throw yourself additional curveballs)
In the words of the ancient philosopher Borat:
“It is great success.”
40 rounds, witness marks on the scope tube stayed true.
For those not into 12 pages of posts novels, here’s my assessment:
Leupold’s - probably fine, just the wrong part. I still can’t get the website to show which is 6 vs 9 lug, but I clicked “buy” and paid the money. I own it.
The Talley’s finally held. Most recent round of failure I’m positive was because they weren’t tight enough. I had ditched the torque wrench and used the included torx elbow wrench. Last night, I set the torque wrench low and incrementally increased it until it would back the screws out. My rough guess is that hand tightening put them in the mid teens. I busted the torque wrench out, put 25-ish on them, dry, held fine today. The difference is the very first time they had a good amount of loctite on them, and were at the 20in-lb mark.
Lessons learned:
- Form has a great detailed writeup on installation on another forum with good photos. But, he also lives in a world where he shoots/observes more rounds fired every month than I have shot in my adult life. If you do as well, press on, brother. My feel for it is substandard. I’m pretty good at flying, but it’ll be a torque wrench for me from now on.
- Loctite. I’ve read dozens of convincing arguments for and against. I’ve traditionally used it. BUT: I noticed through the process that it never set. During disassembly, most of it was still wet, even if after a week. I suspect that living in a grossly humid environment is not a good thing for it. So pardon my French, but I’ll be going in dry from now on. (I will , however, dab the screw tops with hardened nail polish to keep junk and moisture out and act as a screw position witness.)
Gun is a Weatherby Cinderlite (lightweight Mark V) in .308. Bone stock. Scope is a SWFA SS 3-9x42 FFP 30mm. https://www.swfa.com/swfa-ss-hd-3-9x42-tactical-30mm-riflescope.html
All rings, bases, hardware and scope are degreased, I even wore rubber gloves this time installing. Torqued to spec, blue loctite. 4-5 shots and the scope has rotated 10-12 degrees CCW.
Anyone have ideas? I’ve never had an issue with any ring.
EDIT - for those not interested in 13 pages. Lots of curveballs, but relatively simple solution. (Hint: don’t throw yourself additional curveballs)
In the words of the ancient philosopher Borat:
“It is great success.”
40 rounds, witness marks on the scope tube stayed true.
For those not into 12 pages of posts novels, here’s my assessment:
Leupold’s - probably fine, just the wrong part. I still can’t get the website to show which is 6 vs 9 lug, but I clicked “buy” and paid the money. I own it.
The Talley’s finally held. Most recent round of failure I’m positive was because they weren’t tight enough. I had ditched the torque wrench and used the included torx elbow wrench. Last night, I set the torque wrench low and incrementally increased it until it would back the screws out. My rough guess is that hand tightening put them in the mid teens. I busted the torque wrench out, put 25-ish on them, dry, held fine today. The difference is the very first time they had a good amount of loctite on them, and were at the 20in-lb mark.
Lessons learned:
- Form has a great detailed writeup on installation on another forum with good photos. But, he also lives in a world where he shoots/observes more rounds fired every month than I have shot in my adult life. If you do as well, press on, brother. My feel for it is substandard. I’m pretty good at flying, but it’ll be a torque wrench for me from now on.
- Loctite. I’ve read dozens of convincing arguments for and against. I’ve traditionally used it. BUT: I noticed through the process that it never set. During disassembly, most of it was still wet, even if after a week. I suspect that living in a grossly humid environment is not a good thing for it. So pardon my French, but I’ll be going in dry from now on. (I will , however, dab the screw tops with hardened nail polish to keep junk and moisture out and act as a screw position witness.)
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