Is there sufficient demand for a custom reticle provider?

[Jimss]

I'm pretty happy with most of my rifle scopes that have withstood the test of time. Ever since long-range shooting has been the rage, there have been a plethora of scope and reticle options .

The same long-range shooting craze has appeared for archery and muzzy where there tends to be a lot fewer manufactures and options available.

Where open sights are the only legal choice (Colorado muzzleloader), I've had a difficult time finding open sight options with tiny, functional reticles with LED pins that can be used in low light conditions. There may be something available, but I haven't found any. Mathew's sells an adjustable bow sight that costs upwards of $700 that is fairly nice but could use a few tweaks.

Anyway, it may be worth researching the open sight archery and muzzleloader market?

 

[Chris in TN]

You have to factor tho, just in the Nx6 thread there are like 10 different wants a needs. Thats a very small subset of shooters who are saying that too.

I'd bet $1 (but wouldn't bet the entire startup costs of this hypothetical reticle company) that I could satisfy nine of those people with one reticle design. None would think it perfect, but 9/10 would see it as better than what exists.

 

[HuntHarder]

I'd bet $1 (but wouldn't bet the entire startup costs of this hypothetical reticle company) that I could satisfy nine of those people with one reticle design. None would think it perfect, but 9/10 would see it as better than what exists.

I think I'd agree with you on that. Are you seriously looking into starting a company to do this?

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

premier done several for me before they went all military and T K lee done a couple before health troubles. the last 2 Cheryl at Ackerman made up. she still does some but is very picky.
one of the reasons to be picky has to do with how they are glued. all of these makers had to have a wire to put the dots on.

You are wrong....T.K. Lee used Black Widow spider web to suspend their Lee Dot reticle.

 

[Chris in TN]

I think I'd agree with you on that. Are you seriously looking into starting a company to do this?

No. I think a demand exists but I don’t have the background for it.

I’d consider investing in such a thing though.

 

[HuntHarder]

No. I think a demand exists but I don’t have the background for it.

I’d consider investing in such a thing though.

Gotcha, I think the demand exists to an extent, just not sure how far out or, if ever, you get an ROI. Just getting established and "certified" to work on various scopes and not void the warranty, would likely be extremely challenging.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

The only thing on which all the engineers and experts can agree is that the end user is a moron. Darren from Sales has charts and graphs to prove it. Jan from Marketing can show that most end users make their decisions based on a video game or movie.

Educating enough consumers to make companies take notice is thankless work.

But, if you could sell 100k reticle replacements at $100 each before the heat death of the universe, the industry might take notice. Good luck!

 

[Sled]

It's expensive to refurbish a fire control. There is liability to be considered and that costs extra money on top of the service. I would be interested if the price was right but I'd rather see someone develope a reticle that works and license it to the correct manufacturer. I think that has been done recently here, though even that one was a bit busy if I recall.

 

[rayporter]

You are wrong....T.K. Lee used Black Widow spider web to suspend their Lee Dot reticle.

could very well be.........

Michael O'donnel [who i delt with last] never called it spider silk. or spider wire or spider anything, he just said he had to have a stadia line to put the dots on.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

You have to factor tho, just in the Nx6 thread there are like 10 different wants a needs. Thats a very small subset of shooters who are saying that too.

Yup, some of them are hunting, which for most are up to 600 as evidenced by so many things no longer required to debate as tags folded and amount of targets per year one can fold them on are limited but extremely valuable, then others who add 2-400 yards to that ‘hunting’ distance. Then others also want crossover to things resembling competition or maybe the differences should simply be in the nature and size of targets and whether or not those targets can appear out of nowhere and always moving and also appear primarily in low light, what distances majority of them are engaged.

The goals must be defined. All of them. Much overlap versatility can be applied and built in. Most ffp emphasizes the little static targets that have unlimited tags available and at distances well beyond where vast majority of all actual limited ‘real’ tags are folded. The hunters wish for the emphasis to reverse, start at the 0 yards and larger extremely valuable limited targets that appear and move randomly...and to the already known 600 distance for vast majority and exponentially less as you go from 150 towards 600 and then less emphasis or at least utilize all the already good options for the everything that do work well for unimportant little static targets at ranges just up to and well beyond the 600 mark which still function for the few who can and willing to use on the valuable tags too.

Hard to build things to solve for an application that isn’t defined.

We should all be trying to drive these inputs and definitions but maybe in more logical and data driven speak. Ie; stadia size required to see it without illum to near last legal light on a deer at 600 and still reference accurately. Is it 2” is it 3” lines that we would land on?

Whatever it is it could be derived from the gobs of reticles we have used even going back to lr duplex or duplex in old fixed 6x and variables etc as starting points then see what has evolved since then.

Each aspect gets argued, unit, intervals, dial, reticle, we get lost in the trees. Literally and figuratively lol. Gotta see the forest. Define the camps too. What level of camps go from one system to another for various reasons, field goals changes, aging eyes, whatever.

Good points brought up by all, Chris and Rich above etc. So how to define hunting? What’s the roadmap to create defined goal posts? With more data with sizing as related to targets at distances and visibility of it etc. Illum is a luxury but used to solve bulk of the crossover from the least important to hunting end of spectrum to ‘make it work’ for the hunt end of spectrum. How best to flip that script?