Is There Ever a Time to Hunt with Magnum Calibers?

[bmart2622]

Lets not pretend that its that complicated. If youre using a match bullet, keep your muzzle velocity below 3k fps, and then know what yardage you drop below 1800fps. You need to remember 1 yardage, if thats too complicated to remember theres bigger issues than ballistics at hand

 

[tenth1]

Lets not pretend that its that complicated. If youre using a match bullet, keep your muzzle velocity below 3k fps, and then know what yardage you drop below 1800fps. You need to remember 1 yardage, if thats too complicated to remember theres bigger issues than ballistics at hand

If you ever get a chance to walk up on a critter at 50 yd or less, your "match" bullet is inadequate, especially if bone is in the way.

Don't get me wrong, bullet placement is king. The linch pin is that we are hunting where there are inevitable situations where there are sub-obtimal shot placements.

 

[huntnful]

If you ever get a chance to walk up on a critter at 50 yd or less, your "match" bullet is inadequate, especially if bone is in the way.

Don't get me wrong, bullet placement is king. The linch pin is that we are hunting where there are inevitable situations where there are sub-obtimal shot placements.

You sure about that? 10 yards. Pretty sure that bullet wasn’t going to peter out for a little bit further….

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

If you ever get a chance to walk up on a critter at 50 yd or less, your "match" bullet is inadequate, especially if bone is in the way.

Yeah, um... No.

 

[waspocrew]

You sure about that? 10 yards. Pretty sure that bullet wasn’t going to peter out for a little bit further….

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** Mic drop **

 

[tenth1]

Looks just like the caribou at same-ish yardage I took with a VLD. Ruined A LOT of meat that we were after.

Yup dead is dead, but there are optimal performance charateristics that we desire. That photo is not one of them.

 

[HandgunHTR]

I've also been in the situation where walking through the timber and found a sub-optimal shot to be required. In some of the heat of moment times, I'm lucky to not shoot my foot off, let alone praying my velocity based bullet will perform correctly going through a branch or two while they are quartering away.

First off, if you are so jumpy that you are in danger of shooting yourself, you should probably work on that.

Second, there isn't a bullet in the world that doesn't deflect when hitting branches or other obstacles in flight. Your "bigger, harder, faster" bullet isn't magic. Also, if you don't have the discipline to hold your shot until you have a clear target, then I will go back to my first comment about working on that.

 

[Ryan Avery]

If you ever get a chance to walk up on a critter at 50 yd or less, your "match" bullet is inadequate, especially if bone is in the way.

Don't get me wrong, bullet placement is king. The linch pin is that we are hunting where there are inevitable situations where there are sub-obtimal shot placements.

50 yard with a Match bullet

 

[huntnful]

Looks just like the caribou at same-ish yardage I took with a VLD. Ruined A LOT of meat that we were after.

Yup dead is dead, but there are optimal performance charateristics that we desire. That photo is not one of them.

Understandable. But it’s not that they won’t kill an animal. Meat loss is a personal issue. Not a blanket issue.

 

[KHntr]

If you ever get a chance to walk up on a critter at 50 yd or less, your "match" bullet is inadequate, especially if bone is in the way.

Yeahhhh you are wrong there.
Break shoulders at 50 yards or less. Zero qualms about busting an elk shoulder at sub 50.

 

[jimh406]

You sure about that? 10 yards. Pretty sure that bullet wasn’t going to peter out for a little bit further….

Can you explain how that bullet wouldn't underperform at distance if it has huge expansion at close distance?

I think that's the point of choosing bullets. Choose ones that work at your most common distances. There are a few that try to work at all distances like the Nosler Partition, but even it is a compromise.

 

[huntnful]

Can you explain how that bullet wouldn't underperform at distance if it has huge expansion at close distance?

I think that's the point of choosing bullets. Choose ones that work at your most common distances. There are a few that try to work at all distances like the Nosler Partition, but even it is a compromise.

Sure. I killed a buck with the same bullet at 630 yards. Same EXACT placement as the buck at 10 yards. It stoned him on impact.

Entrance.



Entrance shoulder removed. Already a 3” wound channel before getting to the vitals.


That’s the beauty of the fragmenting match bullets. They perform in a huge variety of situations and impact velocities. That’s why I personally shoot them. Versatility.

 

[bmart2622]

If you ever get a chance to walk up on a critter at 50 yd or less, your "match" bullet is inadequate, especially if bone is in the way.

Don't get me wrong, bullet placement is king. The linch pin is that we are hunting where there are inevitable situations where there are sub-obtimal shot placements.

Well....as others have already alluded to, you couldn't be more wrong!!!!

 

[Ryan Avery]

Can you explain how that bullet wouldn't underperform at distance if it has huge expansion at close distance?

I think that's the point of choosing bullets. Choose ones that work at your most common distances. There are a few that try to work at all distances like the Nosler Partition, but even it is a compromise.

Easy, these match bullets are not your granddaddy's match bullets. TMKs, ELD-Ms, and NR Dtacs are devastating up close and at distance.

People need to stop reading pay to play content and start testing shit for themselves.

 

[jimh406]

People need to stop reading pay to play content and start testing shit for themselves.

Most of use have been shooting animals for years. If our "hunting" bullets work, it's not a wrong solution just different than yours.

No pay for play required. That's just a silly comment.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Most of use have been shooting animals for years. If our "hunting" bullets work, it's not a wrong solution just different than yours.

No pay for play required. That's just a silly comment.

How many modern match bullets have you tried?

 

[roadrunner]

@Ryan Avery testing as in experimenting on animals?

 

[Ryan Avery]

@Ryan Avery testing as in experimenting on animals?

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[jimh406]

How many modern match bullets have you tried?

Zero. It wouldn't make any sense. I don't want to "test" on animals.

Why are you trying so hard to get people to move away from something that works?

 

[roadrunner]

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People need to stop reading pay to play content and start testing shit for themselves.

Again, testing as in experimenting on animals?