Is There Ever a Time to Hunt with Magnum Calibers?

[khuber84]

You keep saying that. But I’ve explained the opposite to you a number of times. If you keep saying it does it make it true? Or are you one of those people that can convince himself by lying to himself, a true narcissist.

Dead is dead. I cannot say my 338 rum, 300nmi, 7LRM kills any better than my 6cm or 22cm. A highly expanding match bullet was put into vital organs and shit was on the ground inside 30y of impact this season on 11 animals. All 1 shot kills ranging from 280-600+. This was all 6cm and 22cm. Can I say my big magnums kill them deader or faster? No, not really........The lil guns are way more enjoyable and pleasant to shoot that I know for a fact.

 

[35WhelenAI]

You're missing the forest for the trees. You called someone out for drinking while they are posting something that goes against what you pontificate. Do you agree or disagree? Is that the place of a moderator, even though it's only bestowed apparently for scope drop evaluations?

 

[35WhelenAI]

All right Form. Take Super moderator off of your forum title. You are simply an evaluator of scopes. I'm sure that can be done.

 

[Formidilosus]

I'll take that as a compliment that I'm one of three or four people that are willing to share that larger calibers and cases aren't to be feared.

See, this is where it goes off the rails. Can you show one post from someone saying that larger calibers and cases should be feared?

You do not need to engage in hyperbole- no one- NOT ONE PERSON has said, or says that larger cartridges are scary.

One shot in the field is not the same as a 20 or 30 shot group that has been determined statistically relevant on a target.

Do you believe that if you take 100 random hunters, and have them take 100 single shots at targets under hunting “stress” with a 35 Whelen AI; and then take another 100 random hunters, and have them take 100 single shots at those same targets under hunting “stress”- that the hit, miss, and wound rates will be identical between the cartridges?

 

[Formidilosus]

You're missing the forest for the trees. You called someone out for drinking while they are posting something that goes against what you pontificate. Do you agree or disagree?

No, that is not what I did or wrote. That poster said I needed to stop “playing the victim”. Trying to say I play the victim is utterly ludicrous- so ridiculous, that someone saying that is either intoxicated, or gaslighting.

Is that the place of a moderator, even though it's only bestowed apparently for scope drop evaluations?

You cannot be this dense. In order to lock threads, you have to have moderator privileges- that’s it. When you have moderator privileges- the software automatically titles the poster “moderator”. @Ryan Avery, @35Whelen AI apparently can’t understand that I am not a moderator. Can you please let him know if I am lying.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Again, throwing a shot with respect to "dense". Your title says super moderator. Are you or aren't you? Every Forum I have been a part of allows that title to be changed by the administrator. If I was sitting in your shoes I'd request a change, hard to justify that position provides moderation.

 

[280Ackley]

I'll take that as a compliment that I'm one of three or four people that are willing to share that larger calibers and cases aren't to be feared. One shot in the field is not the same as a 20 or 30 shot group that has been determined statistically relevant on a target. Killing something with a small caliber and frangible small bullet, that destroys an enormous amount of meat as shown by pictures on this forum, is not where I want to be. If hunters want to destroy meat, have at it. There is another option, larger calibers, non-frangeable bullets, and dead animals. Is that any different than saying small calibers work? But at the expense of meat destruction? Hell, shoot a smaller caliber and non-frangeable bullet, it's been said those are not to be overlooked by the powers that be.

That’s funny, my family/hunting group has 3 whitetail from 100-350 yards with 223 “frangeable” bullets and 2 moose 50 and 600 yards with 6ARC with “frangeable” bullets with a total 0 pounds of meat lost this year.

 

[Wrench]

I have to think form is being square with you or he'd have snoozed you....


Please don't stop. This shit is hilarious.

 

[Wrench]

That’s funny, my family/hunting group has 3 whitetail from 100-350 yards with 223 “frangeable” bullets and 2 moose 50 and 600 yards with 6ARC with “frangeable” bullets with a total 0 pounds of meat lost this year.

Did you shoot them like this?

 

[35WhelenAI]

That’s funny, my family/hunting group has 3 whitetail from 100-350 yards with 223 “frangeable” bullets and 2 moose 50 and 600 yards with 6ARC with “frangeable” bullets with a total 0 pounds of meat lost this year.

That's good input. Most of the pictures with smaller frangible bullets show a good bit of loss. If y'all hit behind the shoulder, I would expect that. If it was hit on the shoulder, I don't need to have shot an animal with a 223 to know the likely outcome.

 

[Wrench]

Or like this?

 

[280Ackley]

No head shots all behind the shoulder and one moose facing was hit square in the chest. I am actually amazed how little we have lost with them. Even one small buck last year that was shot right between the hind quarters while running away didn’t ruin hardly any meat.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Behind the rear quarters implies, if not states directly, a Texas heart shot. I wouldn't expect meat to be destroyed hitting them in the bunghole and a bullet ranging forward to the vitals. Not questioning or criticizing the shot, if you feel comfortable with it, it's absolutely a shooter call. A dead sternum shot isn't going to destroy meat that is typically hauled out of the field by most folks.

 

[Wrench]

Behind the rear quarters implies, if not states directly, a Texas heart shot. I wouldn't expect meat to be destroyed hitting them in the bunghole and a bullet ranging forward to the vitals. Not questioning or criticizing the shot, if you feel comfortable with it it's absolutely a shooter call.

I hit this bull squarely in the doughnut. It destroyed zero meat. 300rum at 80 yards.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Good work, knowing your bullet and capabilities is paramount to giving respect to the outcome on a living creature.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Your title says super moderator. Are you or aren't you? Every Forum I have been a part of allows that title to be changed by the administrator.

@Formidilosus can only lock his threads and make them stickys(Scope Evaluations). He has no other moderator privileges. I changed his title for you.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Thank you for weighing in on things. We all see from different standpoints and I feel you are in the direction of both sides having legitimate thoughts. You don't have to agree or disagree however, appreciate it.

 

[Brandon.miller.4]

My dads wound channels are bigger than your dads wound channels.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Thank you for weighing in on things. We all see from different standpoints and I feel you are in the direction of both sides having legitimate thoughts. You don't have to agree or disagree however, appreciate it.

I support honest debate based on firsthand experience. I have experienced both sides of this issue and rarely argue in these discussions anymore because I know what works best for me.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Appreciate your candor. Have a good night.