Is there anyone who prefers MOA vs MIls for hunting purposes?

I read “switch to MILS and never miss”. 😀

I started and still use MOA. The quick drop and wind brackets are a compelling argument for MILS. I’ll agree thats pretty simple.

Question for the MIL guys. Are you saying MILS is so easy that you’re not using a dope card of some kind?
Meaning that you range, remember, hold/dial and shoot?

I can pretty much within a couple tenths guess my elevation to around 500 in mils given I know the velocity of my projectile.

I could never do that with moa.
 
I read “switch to MILS and never miss”. 😀

I started and still use MOA. The quick drop and wind brackets are a compelling argument for MILS. I’ll agree thats pretty simple.

Question for the MIL guys. Are you saying MILS is so easy that you’re not using a dope card of some kind?
Meaning that you range, remember, hold/dial and shoot?
I killed my bear this spring doing exactly that. 298yds, (quick drop average gun, yardage -2 =dial) 298yds-2 =1MIL.
I saw the bear headed toward an opening. I ranged the opening just as he came out sooner than I expected. I was sitting on a stepped ledge. I had just enough time to turn around, grab my pack, plop it in front of me upright, dial 1 MIL, flopped the rifle over the pack and got the crosshairs on him. just as I did, he stopped and stood up. I shot him in the chest and hit him about 2" right of poa.
I saw the shot was good in the scope and he went down. He moved a little and I put a second shot in him but he was dead.

From when he came out to the second shot was about 25 seconds, maybe 30.

I could have just held one MIL and saved a few seconds.
 
Hahaha. You seriously think a proficient spotter can look 1000 yards away and be able to count inches?

That is insanity.
Shooters don't read impacts or drift in inches. When the bullet lands my crosshairs are on the target, I can see where the bullet went in relation to the POA and can measure with the reticle in an instant. 1000 is super easy as 5" is almost exactly .5 MOA, so yes... yes they can.

Arguing a topic you know nothing about is insanity.
 
Where using any angular system (MOA or MIL) breaks down for me is when the spotter/guide/rangefinder/etc thinks in linear units and not angular.

At that point you are speaking two different languages and stuff is likely to be lost in mathematical translation.

Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of hunters think in linear units and not angular.

This makes the BDC turret on the Revic scope attractive to me because you have a translator on your turret.
Editing my post…if you can figure out the quick drop system AND do the math correctly, then your spotter can call yards and you can adjust accordingly.

But…you’re reliant on yourself doing the math under pressure with elk sized flop sweat in your face 🤣😂
 
Shooters don't read impacts or drift in inches. When the bullet lands my crosshairs are on the target, I can see where the bullet went in relation to the POA and can measure with the reticle in an instant. 1000 is super easy as 5" is almost exactly .5 MOA, so yes... yes they can.

Arguing a topic you know nothing about is insanity.
You’re arguing for using your reticle as a measuring device. I (and most people) here agree with that.

My original comment was to the guy who said to measure it inches and adjust accordingly. I said trying to guess linear distance at range was a bad idea when you should just use your reticle for corrections. It sounds like we’re aligned on that?

So I guess I’m confused what you’re arguing about?
 
I think a mil dot Trijicon Accupoint is like that.
Seems so from the description.

And I think at one time I had an SWFA 20x (?) that was like that.
 
You’re arguing for using your reticle as a measuring device. I (and most people) here agree with that.

My original comment was to the guy who said to measure it inches and adjust accordingly. I said trying to guess linear distance at range was a bad idea when you should just use your reticle for corrections. It sounds like we’re aligned on that?

So I guess I’m confused what you’re arguing about?
Then please accept my apology, I misread the intent of your message.
 
Question for the MIL guys. Are you saying MILS is so easy that you’re not using a dope card of some kind?
Meaning that you range, remember, hold/dial and shoot?

Yes for my 223, no for my 243 as its too far off from quick drop for my pea brain to remember. A simple dope card does the trick, and I can do wind calls for either in my head.
 
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If you intend to get into PR matches its better to move over to Mil's, simply because its less clicks and thats what everyone is using.
 
Question for the MIL guys. Are you saying MILS is so easy that you’re not using a dope card of some kind?
Meaning that you range, remember, hold/dial and shoot?
Thays exactly what i did on my first hunt after I switched from moa to mils. Ranged a whitetail at 320, dialed 1.2 mils, perfect shot.

I was sold on the switch before that, but it sealed the deal. A friend who is "moa only and never gonna change" saw how easy that was in person and also started making the switch.

Not a real long shot but felt like an "ah ha!" moment where I realized it really was that simple.
 
I've had one since 1991. :)
Me too, that was a joke. Theyre almost useless when you look at their intended function.

honest question...

How do YOU use it?

I had one also, using MOA, the dials obviously work.
The reticle in Mils serves no function outside of giving you a point of aim and making corrections IF you accurately spot your hit.
I did the math for mine, at max power, it came out to be 3.48 MOA per Mil. Knowing that was ok, but I still trued actual drop data and made a drop card using the reticle as hold over references. It worked pretty well out to around 700.

What I can tell you now is, without a doubt, Mil/mil is 100x easier and faster when reticle/dial/mental math are all the same.
 
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