I do believe these cartidges are plenty capable. I shot a nice muley buck with my 6 CM this year. I am converting from a former big bore guy. When I said 'this hits hard' I meant his statement of people having a mental hurdle of using the 6 cm, but the 25 cm, a slightly larger step up in bullet weight is more appealing. That's how I view it...for whatever reason a 128 or 134 ELD bullet is 'better' than a 108. Even though they will perform nearly identically. Not an EVB fan, trust me. His statement was just funny to me, because that's exactly how my brain views it as well.