Is Kifaru moving manufacturing overseas?

[cuerro viejo]

Any one want to bet on if Kifaru goes down same path as Mystery Ranch… military made in USA, hunting overseas? Bet in less then 5 years

 

[2ski]

I was a "read only" guy for 5 years on here, ask a legit question about something I have zero clue about, got hammered on here and on the podcast..

On the podcast? Do tell what happened.

 

[2ski]

on sale for 32 at Origin USA, if you follow the typical 100% market up of most textile companies…$16

ORIGIN® CORE T-SHIRT​

Proudly made from American-grown cotton, cut and sewn right here in the USA.
$32.00
BUY ANY 3 OR MORE CORE TEES AND SAVE 20%.

My guess is these are at or below cost. Sometimes you do that for advertising and just get a bunch of swag out.

 

[BigDuckHunter]

Someone threw out the numbers but it was along the lines of "100% american made t-shirt with American materials would be like $60" just for a cheap ol t-shirt... thats a hard sell if you wanna sell many T-shirts.

The t-shirts lululemon makes sell for $60-90 and they do just fine. I think if a company committed to high quality clothes that happened to be made in the US, they could do alright.

 

[Wprinkle]

The t-shirts lululemon makes sell for $60-90 and they do just fine. I think if a company committed to high quality clothes that happened to be made in the US, they could do alright.

Oh I agree there is a market for that. I mean T-shirts that you buy to mow the yard and change the oil in. There would be a huge market for shirts that are a little tight in the arms and loose in the belly too lmao

 

[camelcluch]

As soon as the Scheels deal was done the move was in place. Look at what’s going on there. All roads lead to china on this one.

 

[roosiebull]

Any one want to bet on if Kifaru goes down same path as Mystery Ranch… military made in USA, hunting overseas? Bet in less then 5 years

I have more faith in the brand than that, I think what kifaru is now is what it will be for the foreseeable future. They want to have a profitable business, so following the MR business model would be a bad business plan.

There is too much competition in the pack market for them to do that and not take a big hit.

 

[Dos Perros]

I have more faith in the brand than that, I think what kifaru is now is what it will be for the foreseeable future. They want to have a profitable business, so following the MR business model would be a bad business plan.

There is too much competition in the pack market for them to do that and not take a big hit.

How many frames does Kifaru sell in a year? How does that compare to Exo and Stone Glacier?

 

[OH_Tony]

Oh I agree there is a market for that. I mean T-shirts that you buy to mow the yard and change the oil in. There would be a huge market for shirts that are a little tight in the arms and loose in the belly too lmao

Not to derail this thread but check out 3 fit theory. They are made in California so I guess it's pretty close to made in the US. Prices are pretty solid and I've been happy with the quality and fit over the years. Nice simple tee shirts.

 

[cuerro viejo]

My guess is these are at or below cost. Sometimes you do that for advertising and just get a bunch of swag out.

So All American T shirt company is selling at a loss? There are 5 or 6 US made T-shirt companies, price depends on vertical operations scale. I doubt Origin is selling @ cost, I bet they have a decent margin as they are becoming a fully vertically integrated Textile company specifically with a huge U.S. cotton focus

I have more faith in the brand than that, I think what kifaru is now is what it will be for the foreseeable future. They want to have a profitable business, so following the MR business model would be a bad business plan.

There is too much competition in the pack market for them to do that and not take a big hit.

So MR’s not profitable?

Kifaru is not a Family ran company ran under the same margin needs.

Only time will tell, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they do, not sure I’d blame them either

 

[Bama67]

Why would you pay $500 for an 3rd world country made pack when you can get a $500 one made in the USA?

Who would buy a Mystery Ranch when you can buy an Exo or Stone Glacier for the same money?

 

[blkqi]

My guess is these are at or below cost. Sometimes you do that for advertising and just get a bunch of swag out.

There are many MIUSA T-shirt options in the $20-30 range (retail) that are not swag.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Why would you pay $500 for an 3rd world country made pack when you can get a $500 one made in the USA?

Who would buy a Mystery Ranch when you can buy an Exo or Stone Glacier for the same money?

I wouldn’t but how many packs does Kuiu sell a year? a bunch

 

[wind gypsy]

Scheels is the biggest rumor mill in the US. Every time my dad goes into his local scheels they get him all sorts of wound up and stressed out about something. It must be how they drive sales, panic.

I've probably posted about this 3x already but the best scheels salesmen line I heard was in the rifle scopes area. "So whats the difference between mils and moa" to which the scheels guy said something like "Mils come from the military for artillery and are less accurate than MOA".

 

[mustelid_master]

I've probably posted about this 3x already but the best scheels salesmen line I heard was in the rifle scopes area. "So whats the difference between mils and moa" to which the scheels guy said something like "Mils come from the military for artillery and are less accurate than MOA".

Get that tattooed on your lower back

 

[flyfisher117]

I've probably posted about this 3x already but the best scheels salesmen line I heard was in the rifle scopes area. "So whats the difference between mils and moa" to which the scheels guy said something like "Mils come from the military for artillery and are less accurate than MOA".

That sounds exactly like what my father tells me they tell him. He won't listen or believe me but he takes their word as gospel.