Is Kifaru moving manufacturing overseas?

[cuerro viejo]

Any one want to bet on if Kifaru goes down same path as Mystery Ranch… military made in USA, hunting overseas? Bet in less then 5 years

 

[2ski]

I was a "read only" guy for 5 years on here, ask a legit question about something I have zero clue about, got hammered on here and on the podcast..

On the podcast? Do tell what happened.

 

[2ski]

on sale for 32 at Origin USA, if you follow the typical 100% market up of most textile companies…$16

ORIGIN® CORE T-SHIRT​

Proudly made from American-grown cotton, cut and sewn right here in the USA.
$32.00
BUY ANY 3 OR MORE CORE TEES AND SAVE 20%.

My guess is these are at or below cost. Sometimes you do that for advertising and just get a bunch of swag out.

 

[BigDuckHunter]

Someone threw out the numbers but it was along the lines of "100% american made t-shirt with American materials would be like $60" just for a cheap ol t-shirt... thats a hard sell if you wanna sell many T-shirts.

The t-shirts lululemon makes sell for $60-90 and they do just fine. I think if a company committed to high quality clothes that happened to be made in the US, they could do alright.

 

[Wprinkle]

The t-shirts lululemon makes sell for $60-90 and they do just fine. I think if a company committed to high quality clothes that happened to be made in the US, they could do alright.

Oh I agree there is a market for that. I mean T-shirts that you buy to mow the yard and change the oil in. There would be a huge market for shirts that are a little tight in the arms and loose in the belly too lmao

 

[camelcluch]

As soon as the Scheels deal was done the move was in place. Look at what’s going on there. All roads lead to china on this one.

 

[roosiebull]

Any one want to bet on if Kifaru goes down same path as Mystery Ranch… military made in USA, hunting overseas? Bet in less then 5 years

I have more faith in the brand than that, I think what kifaru is now is what it will be for the foreseeable future. They want to have a profitable business, so following the MR business model would be a bad business plan.

There is too much competition in the pack market for them to do that and not take a big hit.

 

[Dos Perros]

I have more faith in the brand than that, I think what kifaru is now is what it will be for the foreseeable future. They want to have a profitable business, so following the MR business model would be a bad business plan.

There is too much competition in the pack market for them to do that and not take a big hit.

How many frames does Kifaru sell in a year? How does that compare to Exo and Stone Glacier?

 

[OH_Tony]

Oh I agree there is a market for that. I mean T-shirts that you buy to mow the yard and change the oil in. There would be a huge market for shirts that are a little tight in the arms and loose in the belly too lmao

Not to derail this thread but check out 3 fit theory. They are made in California so I guess it's pretty close to made in the US. Prices are pretty solid and I've been happy with the quality and fit over the years. Nice simple tee shirts.

 

[cuerro viejo]

My guess is these are at or below cost. Sometimes you do that for advertising and just get a bunch of swag out.

So All American T shirt company is selling at a loss? There are 5 or 6 US made T-shirt companies, price depends on vertical operations scale. I doubt Origin is selling @ cost, I bet they have a decent margin as they are becoming a fully vertically integrated Textile company specifically with a huge U.S. cotton focus

I have more faith in the brand than that, I think what kifaru is now is what it will be for the foreseeable future. They want to have a profitable business, so following the MR business model would be a bad business plan.

There is too much competition in the pack market for them to do that and not take a big hit.

So MR’s not profitable?

Kifaru is not a Family ran company ran under the same margin needs.

Only time will tell, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they do, not sure I’d blame them either

 

[Bama67]

Why would you pay $500 for an 3rd world country made pack when you can get a $500 one made in the USA?

Who would buy a Mystery Ranch when you can buy an Exo or Stone Glacier for the same money?

 

[blkqi]

My guess is these are at or below cost. Sometimes you do that for advertising and just get a bunch of swag out.

There are many MIUSA T-shirt options in the $20-30 range (retail) that are not swag.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Why would you pay $500 for an 3rd world country made pack when you can get a $500 one made in the USA?

Who would buy a Mystery Ranch when you can buy an Exo or Stone Glacier for the same money?

I wouldn’t but how many packs does Kuiu sell a year? a bunch