Is it all Leopolds

[Nards444]

I don’t how much to read into the non durability of leupold. Is this across all models. I’m looking at the mark 5

 

[FAAFO]

No had a problem with a Leupold but I don’t kill paper. I kill animals.

Just a Rokslide Randy issue.

 

[gtriple]

Sometimes maybe good. Sometimes maybe shit.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Sometimes rarely good. Mostly maybe shit.

Fixed.

 

[bojangles808]

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

It’s the Rokslide cult mindset.
Hate leupold.
Love Tikka.

 

[TxLite]

It’s the Rokslide cult mindset.
Hate leupold.
Love Tikka.

Might be some of that going on but I was having issues with mine before knowing they even had issues or joining Rokslide.

 

[Marbles]

Try your luck. Some of them work. Your money, your time.

Everything has a failure rate, you could get an NF that doesn't work. But I put the odds of getting a Leupold that doesn't much higher.

 

[N2TRKYS]

I’ve never had a Leupold to lose zero. Been using them since the early nineties.

 

[Formidilosus]

It’s the Rokslide cult mindset.
Hate leupold.
Love Tikka.

Why do you keep saying “cult”? It doesn’t mean what you think it means, and you’re using it as the word “racist” is used now.



cult /kŭlt/

noun​

1. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
2. The followers of such a religion or sect.
3. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

 

[35WhelenAI]

It's hilarious when people change quotes and say "fixed it". How "Rokslide" that has become. Come up with your own words. In case it needs clarifying, that's a generalization so as to not open up the worms and need a definition of "butt hurt".

As an aside, cult does not need any association with religion in order to be a following among a specific group of people. To be clear on all the possible uses of the word not just the ones presented above.

 

[Cactus kid]

I’ve never had a leupold that kept zero. Always a little off. Not enough to miss at 200 yards, but always off. None would hold zero on any sort of impact. I’d wager most guys who say “mine has never lost zero” shoot a box of ammo a year and call it good and don’t kill much beyond 200 yards. They almost certainly never track it.

 

[35WhelenAI]

I’ve never had a leupold that kept zero. Always a little off. Not enough to miss at 200 yards, but always off. I’d wager most guys who say “mine has never lost zero” shoot a box of ammo a year and call it good and don’t kill much beyond 200 yards. They almost certainly never track it.

Don't go assuming. What don't "They" track???

That's a pretty big stretch that "most guys" with a Leupold shoot a box of ammo a year, absolutely ridiculously stupid, and I don't go there much with that response. Many guys have thousands of rounds through rifles with Leupolds, and probably more big game animals under their belt than folks who jump on the anti-bandwagon. Punching hearts and lungs works pretty good for killing animals, punching paper hasn't killed an animal yet to my knowledge. There are scopes that hold zero under abuse better, but we're talking field accuracy out to hunting ranges, not sniping ranges that the military would brag about and call it hunting.

30 years of Leupold set it and forget it scopes, well over 30 big game animals, out to 400-450 yards. Two needed more than one shot, and the shot count on each of them was two.

 

[Cactus kid]

Don't go assuming. That's a pretty big stretch that "most guys" with a Leupold shoot a box of ammo year, absolutely ridiculously stupid, and I don't go there much with that response. Many guys have thousands of rounds through the rifles with Leupolds, and probably more big game animals under their belt than folks who jump on the anti-bandwagon. Punching hearts and lungs works pretty good for killing animals, punching paper hasn't killed an animal yet to my knowledge. There are scopes that hold zero under abuse better, but we're talking field accuracy out to hunting ranges, not sniping ranges that the military would brag about and call it hunting.

30 years of Leupold set it and forget it scopes, over 40 big game animals, out to 400-450 yards. Two needed more than one shot, and the shot count on each of them was two.

It’s not a big stretch. I see the guys who post “mine has never lost zero” all the time. Thousands of rounds and big game animals over 400 yards is not in their wheelhouse. Not stupid, just an observation. You may be the exemption.

I take the killing of big game far more seriously than shooting paper. If I only shot paper I wouldn’t care if my scope lost zero.

 

[Cactus kid]

Don't go assuming. What don't "They" track???

Zero. They don’t track zero.

 

[Sadler]

For the past six months I’ve had a mark 5 3-18 on a 13lb chassis rifle in the back of my truck that has kept zero. I’ve had leupolds fail on me before and much prefer nightforce but so far this one seems to be doing well.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Thanks for a good reply. When you said "they don't track it", I got the impression that hunters with Leupolds don't track their kills to be able to specify distance, etc. Apologies.

With that, I know I'm not an exception. There are far more hunters than me, probably a million + that have successfully used Leupold scopes.

I'm standing some ground to say that there's a difference between what happens in the field and what happens on paper. There are guys that are good game shots and hold a better cone of fire with a Leupold than guys with the scopes that do better on a drop test. I'd take a good shooter and a "good" scope versus a nervous Nellie with a perfect scope any day of the week. However, no disagreement that drop tests are showing a difference between manufacturers.

 

[Cactus kid]

Thanks for a good reply. When you said "they don't track it", I got the impression that hunters with Leupolds don't track their kills to be able to specify distance, etc. Apologies.

With that, I know I'm not an exception. There are far more hunters than me, probably a million + that have successfully used Leupold scopes.

I'm standing some ground to say that there's a difference between what happens in the field and what happens on paper. There are guys that are good game shots and hold a better cone of fire with a Leupold than guys with the scopes that do better on a drop test. I'd take a good shooter and a "good" scope versus a nervous Nellie with a perfect scope any day of the week. However, no disagreement that drop tests are showing a difference between manufacturers.

There is no one who wants a bullet proof leupold more than me.

You are dead on. “Reason number one we miss: we suck.” I killed a pile of animals with a leupold, but there is a reason I don’t own one any more.

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

Why do you keep saying “cult”? It doesn’t mean what you think it means, and you’re using it as the word “racist” is used now.



cult /kŭlt/

noun​

1. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
2. The followers of such a religion or sect.
3. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

I’m using it correctly. Embrace your charismatic role. Don’t fight it. Embrace it. I’m not a convert yet, though I do pause before I buy scopes now. I run to the Bible….i mean scope drop threads…before I buy now.

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

Might be some of that going on but I was having issues with mine before knowing they even had issues or joining Rokslide.

I’m knocking on wood. I’ve yet to have one not hold zero. I’ve had a few vortex break on me. But many of my leupolds are not the newer HD lines (vx6 is of that lineage).

We hunt out of a boat. This moose season we put 400ish miles on our rifle that was bouncing around the whole time in a river skiff. 250yd shot on a nice bull. He went down. She harvested her first. Scope
Didn’t fail.

However, I don’t purchase as confidently as I did. I do read and I do see the reviews.

But I also don’t use eld-m bullets.