Is a 6.5 PRC enough? Do I need a 7mm?

[BCDJR]

Hello Jay. I agree with your comments and know the data. By the way when I want pain I pull out my .308 Lazzeroni Warbird that on a good day pushes 180 grains at 3506 fps. My original point was if the gentleman purchased a 7 mm……like the 28 nosler he would expand opportunities with larger bullets that fight the wind better, less spin drift , less max ordinance height. I’ve shot them all effectively at 1000. But as you say the less recoil is a factor for many people. Make a bad wind call at 800 yards and 8mph you have less room for error with 28 nosler. I really enjoy my 6.5 PRC and is a tack driver. I have seen all the data and information and if folks want to use em to kill a grizzly then good luck. I will not as I have had countless experiences where I did not have the chance to make the perfect shot or perfect angle to locate the shot where a smaller caliber needed to go on big animals. You have some good points you shared here for others. Wind is the devil!

 

[Formidilosus]

.I will not as I have had countless experiences where I did not have the chance to make the perfect shot or perfect angle to locate the shot where a smaller caliber needed to go on big animals.

What shots and angles are those that you have actually taken and made on animals, that you believe a “smaller” caliber wouldn’t have done the same?

 

[BCDJR]

What shots and angles are those that you have actually taken and made on animals, that you believe a “smaller” caliber wouldn’t have done the same?

Just one example…a Marco Polo ram busting down hill in a windy snowstorm in Takaistan

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Internet theory and feelings versus dead animals and facts strikes yet again. Sigh.

 

[BCDJR]

Just one example for now ….a Marco Polo ram busting down hill in a windy snowstorm in Tajikistan. Elevation 16000 ft and temp -15. Off hand at 267 yards

 

[Formidilosus]

Just one example…a Marco Polo ram busting down hill in a windy snowstorm in Takaistan. Elevation 16000 ft and temp -15. Off hand at 267 yards

That is what you think “smaller” callibers won’t do? Sir, you are wildly, factually so far out of reality with terminal ballistics realities.

There is no sheep in the world that a 223 with about 15 different bullets wouldn’t kill that sheep decisively.

 

[JackButler]

Just one example…a Marco Polo ram busting down hill in a windy snowstorm in Takaistan

Well in light of the original post, a 6.5 prc would handle that shot just as well as a 7mm. Personally, I wouldn’t be shooting at a running ram in a snowstorm, especially at any distance.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

What shots and angles are those that you have actually taken and made on animals, that you believe a “smaller” caliber wouldn’t have done the same?

I think he is planning to be able to take a Texas heart shot on a rhinoceros.

He felt undergunned with a 375 against a Cape buffalo at 60 yards. An animal that is notoriously tough and nasty, but has literally been killed with bows and air rifles (penetrating to the chest cavity) and is routinely poached with a 7.62x39 or .303.


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[huntnful]

In all seriousness, has anyone told the OP that he actually needs a 300 PRC? Both 6.5 & 7 PRC are actually equally inadequate…..

 

[BCDJR]

I think he is planning to be able to take a Texas heart shot on a rhinoceros.

He felt undergunned with a 375 against a Cape buffalo at 60 yards. An animal that is notoriously tough and nasty, but has literally been killed with bows and air rifles (penetrating to the chest cavity) and is routinely poached with a 7.62x39 or .303.


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You killed one?

 

[huntnful]

This was actually shot with a 416 Rigby. Or maybe it was just a 6.5, I can’t remember…

 

[BCDJR]

That is what you think “smaller” callibers won’t do? Sir, you are wildly, factually so far out of reality with terminal ballistics realities.

There is no sheep in the world that a 223 with about 15 different bullets wouldn’t kill that sheep decisively.

No question they will. I know a lady who killed one with a handgun on my trip. Have you shot a Marco Polo?

 

[JohnJohnson]

No question they will. I know a lady who killed one with a handgun on my trip. Have you shot a Marco Polo?

If he hasn't, will that make smaller bullets suddenly not work on one?

 

[jaredg]

No question they will. I know a lady who killed one with a handgun on my trip. Have you shot a Marco Polo?

Are Marco Polos harder to kill then a walrus? Asking for a friend...

 

[JackButler]

No question they will. I know a lady who killed one with a handgun on my trip. Have you shot a Marco Polo?

Are they tougher to kill than elk?

 

[LongWayAround]

When I was preparing to take a marginal shot on a bull chupacabra in the Bolivian highlands, I knew that I would need all the wallop I could get.

 

[fwafwow]

When I was preparing to take a marginal shot on a bull chupacabra in the Bolivian highlands, I knew that I would need all the wallop I could get.

Yeah? But at what temp bro?

 

[LongWayAround]

Yeah? But at what temp bro?

-20°C

 

[JackButler]

“Just one example for now ….a Marco Polo ram busting down hill in a windy snowstorm in Tajikistan. Elevation 16000 ft and temp -15. Off hand at 267 yards”
Well the 6.5 prc is only good down to -14 degrees, so ya got me there I guess.

 

[BCDJR]

“Just one example for now ….a Marco Polo ram busting down hill in a windy snowstorm in Tajikistan. Elevation 16000 ft and temp -15. Off hand at 267 yards”
Well the 6.5 prc is only good down to -14 degrees, so ya got me there I guess.

Jack have you ever tracked a wounded animal at 16,000 elevation and -15 degrees. Dressed like the Michelin man? Knee deep snow? I have not and I don’t want to ….that was the point of the local conditions… nothing more. The terrain is very unforgiving as well.