Is a .22 ok for elk?
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mfllood3800
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wait....what??
Maverick1
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Surprised this conversation is still clamoring on.....assumed that someone would have chimed in with the infamous, low brow “nuff said” by now.....good to see all the differing perspectives. Got some wondrous opinions here! This thread is a thing of beauty!
I know it's slightly off topic but I since the PRC and Western have been mentioned I thought y'all deserved to know about the ultra top secret 6 and 6.5 PRCWesternHornet that is now in final stages of development and soon to be released. The powers to be feel these two new cartridges will revolutionize the shooting world. I was able to obtain a photo of these two new cartridges next to their parent case but you can't tell anyway about it because I promised I wouldn't show anyone so shhhhh keep it a secret between us.
Yeah, yeah, I know. I was actually gifted one last year when a relative passed, but I haven't even gotten it out of the safe.
17 HMR is way mo betta, it's a magnumb doncha know?
Totally stole my line. Literally.
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OG DramaLlama
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I used to suffer from projectile dysfunction too. Thanks to CuRx, I'm PD free. With handloading data curated from a forum and new technology I can shoot anything with anything.
Pro Tip # 1022- For elk I like to load a couple extra grains for that maximum velocity.
Pro tip # 1023- Keep those rounds next to skin when hunting...That extra heat will give you that extra FPS needed for full pentration to the anus, or otherwise know as "God's Natural Bullseye" as others have gloriously noted.
Pro Tip # 1022- For elk I like to load a couple extra grains for that maximum velocity.
Pro tip # 1023- Keep those rounds next to skin when hunting...That extra heat will give you that extra FPS needed for full pentration to the anus, or otherwise know as "God's Natural Bullseye" as others have gloriously noted.
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Sticky762
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Make sure to use a pistol chambered in the almighty .22 LR to tame its tremendous velocity with a shorter barrel. A sling shot with jujubees should be carried as a backup incase things get out of hand.
That’s hilarious, do they really ship in that medicine bottle? I don’t even reload but I’d buy a bottle just for that sig
PumaR
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PumaR
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This cat obviously doesn’t understand what it means to be a sniper status stone cold killer - any weapon any dayOh man.. I used to LOVE gettin' all L337 and shankin' fools!
It's soo much fun when ya hear 'em start to get all frustrated and start screaming that you're using hacks, HaHA!
Also like when you're all dialed in and amped up... it's just like any room you enter into... when you're in the zone, all you see is heads! w00t! W00T!!!
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Everyone knows its not the size of the bullet, its the performance of said bullets. Its all about the bc! .22 creedmore all day long while sporting your new limited edition sitka man bun hair tie with a cup of starbucks at your side.
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Newtosavage
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Everyone needs at least one .22 of some kind for something. I just bought a brick of 500 rounds for $35 and can get 3-4 more anytime I want. That's still the cheapest trigger time you're gonna get if there is gunpowder involved. Only thing cheaper is my RWS Diana air rifle.
roosiebull
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this thread already exists, with pages of impressive testimony, if you really are curious about a 22 cal on big animals, plenty of pictures.... there's even a moose with some big busted up bones. 
would it be my choice for big critters? no, but i don't hunt elk with a gun, but if all of this stuff was broke down, all of the small cartridge haters should be totally against archery hunting as well, because those little underpowered cartridges look to make a more disruptive wound channel than my arrows do, and reliably break bones that even a heavy arrow will not do reliably.
if folks are having good success with what they choose to use, a bigger cartridge won't make them deader.... if someone experiences poor performance based on their equipment, it's on them to adapt, if they are unwilling to, that same person is gonna have issues with any weapon they use.... you have to care, if you don't, nothing will yield good results.
this mockery thread seems like fishing for validation, like a little support group that needs others to reaffirm your beliefs because your concepts are based on feelings, and you discount results.... you know deep inside that's not a good way to think, but your emotions won't let you accept reality in this particular subject.... you were told by someone you trust that you need a magnum, and you use it even though it's not very fun to shoot, so you put a brake on it, and now you are subject to that same thing you were trying to avoid..... you think you opened up your shot angles with your big magnum, but now you gave up that fleeting opportunity as you don your ear protection
about half of the elk i see killed with a rifle are shot by somewhat inexperienced people, and cartridges too small for many (6.5's, 270, 7mm-08, etc) the other half more experienced people shooting mostly 30 cal variations (one buddy likes his 6.5prc and kills elk with it beyond my capability) it's the same result.... a well shot elk doesn't leave sight, the only rodeos are from poor shooting, the rest are very straightforward.
i have only seen one elk shot that likely would have been different with a bigger rifle, but i think it was mainly a bullet construction thing.... first elk i saw shot, 308 at 150ish yds... knocked the elk down, we went over there and the elk was gone.... the consensus was shoulder with no penetration, but looking back, i think back strap based on the bull's reaction.... if that's the case, cartridge or bullet wouldn't have changed things.
i think the theme is "live and let live" or at least post up some proof of small cartridges failing.... we see plenty of the small cartridge crowds success (proof that it works well) but the folks saying they're too small, all we see is emotions and feelings..... we all hate when our country is run that way, but it seems ok for those same people to act that way on the internet.... arguing facts with feelings.... it's pretty elementary.
if you think small cartridges aren't responsible to use, why not just add something other than feelings as to why? if you can't, why even comment on it? facts and results should trump feelings, and i think we would all agree on that, yet.....
would it be my choice for big critters? no, but i don't hunt elk with a gun, but if all of this stuff was broke down, all of the small cartridge haters should be totally against archery hunting as well, because those little underpowered cartridges look to make a more disruptive wound channel than my arrows do, and reliably break bones that even a heavy arrow will not do reliably.
if folks are having good success with what they choose to use, a bigger cartridge won't make them deader.... if someone experiences poor performance based on their equipment, it's on them to adapt, if they are unwilling to, that same person is gonna have issues with any weapon they use.... you have to care, if you don't, nothing will yield good results.
this mockery thread seems like fishing for validation, like a little support group that needs others to reaffirm your beliefs because your concepts are based on feelings, and you discount results.... you know deep inside that's not a good way to think, but your emotions won't let you accept reality in this particular subject.... you were told by someone you trust that you need a magnum, and you use it even though it's not very fun to shoot, so you put a brake on it, and now you are subject to that same thing you were trying to avoid..... you think you opened up your shot angles with your big magnum, but now you gave up that fleeting opportunity as you don your ear protection
about half of the elk i see killed with a rifle are shot by somewhat inexperienced people, and cartridges too small for many (6.5's, 270, 7mm-08, etc) the other half more experienced people shooting mostly 30 cal variations (one buddy likes his 6.5prc and kills elk with it beyond my capability) it's the same result.... a well shot elk doesn't leave sight, the only rodeos are from poor shooting, the rest are very straightforward.
i have only seen one elk shot that likely would have been different with a bigger rifle, but i think it was mainly a bullet construction thing.... first elk i saw shot, 308 at 150ish yds... knocked the elk down, we went over there and the elk was gone.... the consensus was shoulder with no penetration, but looking back, i think back strap based on the bull's reaction.... if that's the case, cartridge or bullet wouldn't have changed things.
i think the theme is "live and let live" or at least post up some proof of small cartridges failing.... we see plenty of the small cartridge crowds success (proof that it works well) but the folks saying they're too small, all we see is emotions and feelings..... we all hate when our country is run that way, but it seems ok for those same people to act that way on the internet.... arguing facts with feelings.... it's pretty elementary.
if you think small cartridges aren't responsible to use, why not just add something other than feelings as to why? if you can't, why even comment on it? facts and results should trump feelings, and i think we would all agree on that, yet.....
this thread already exists, with pages of impressive testimony, if you really are curious about a 22 cal on big animals, plenty of pictures.... there's even a moose with some big busted up bones.
would it be my choice for big critters? no, but i don't hunt elk with a gun, but if all of this stuff was broke down, all of the small cartridge haters should be totally against archery hunting as well, because those little underpowered cartridges look to make a more disruptive wound channel than my arrows do, and reliably break bones that even a heavy arrow will not do reliably.
if folks are having good success with what they choose to use, a bigger cartridge won't make them deader.... if someone experiences poor performance based on their equipment, it's on them to adapt, if they are unwilling to, that same person is gonna have issues with any weapon they use.... you have to care, if you don't, nothing will yield good results.
this mockery thread seems like fishing for validation, like a little support group that needs others to reaffirm your beliefs because your concepts are based on feelings, and you discount results.... you know deep inside that's not a good way to think, but your emotions won't let you accept reality in this particular subject.... you were told by someone you trust that you need a magnum, and you use it even though it's not very fun to shoot, so you put a brake on it, and now you are subject to that same thing you were trying to avoid..... you think you opened up your shot angles with your big magnum, but now you gave up that fleeting opportunity as you don your ear protection
about half of the elk i see killed with a rifle are shot by somewhat inexperienced people, and cartridges too small for many (6.5's, 270, 7mm-08, etc) the other half more experienced people shooting mostly 30 cal variations (one buddy likes his 6.5prc and kills elk with it beyond my capability) it's the same result.... a well shot elk doesn't leave sight, the only rodeos are from poor shooting, the rest are very straightforward.
i have only seen one elk shot that likely would have been different with a bigger rifle, but i think it was mainly a bullet construction thing.... first elk i saw shot, 308 at 150ish yds... knocked the elk down, we went over there and the elk was gone.... the consensus was shoulder with no penetration, but looking back, i think back strap based on the bull's reaction.... if that's the case, cartridge or bullet wouldn't have changed things.
i think the theme is "live and let live" or at least post up some proof of small cartridges failing.... we see plenty of the small cartridge crowds success (proof that it works well) but the folks saying they're too small, all we see is emotions and feelings..... we all hate when our country is run that way, but it seems ok for those same people to act that way on the internet.... arguing facts with feelings.... it's pretty elementary.
if you think small cartridges aren't responsible to use, why not just add something other than feelings as to why? if you can't, why even comment on it? facts and results should trump feelings, and i think we would all agree on that, yet.....
You left out the part about why anyone owes you justification for what they shoot.
roosiebull
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you're absolutely right.... or anyone else justification
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