Ironwill VS Kudu VS OzCut

[dkime]

Dude do you seriously think an animal any animal is like a cinder block ? I give two shits how a head preforms on concrete . The ONLY thing I care about is what it does while passing through an animal. And all these heads do there job, and most do it well. So put the advantage each one offers in your favor. I highly prefer two of the biggest holes I can put through an animal, great edge retention, and a head that flies perfectly. If I am after thick skinned animals, a slightly narrow head may be my choice. But the vast majority of the animals we hunt here, I want two of the biggest holes I can get. That right there decides my broad head choice. If I am after cinder blocks I will always choose a bodkin style head, over a conventional style broad head, and a totally different shaft then I use for hunting also. Pick a head for its intended purpose, and what you want out of it. And not every body sends there broad heads back when they get damaged, mine go in the trash.

You seem to be confused, cinder block testing is far more important than testing on live game because A. it requires zero stalking ability because they refuse to move quite often. (Eliminate variable 1) B. They cant smell for shit (2) C/D The can't see or hear (3 and 4) Lastly E, They normally allow you to get fairly close so that way you have less a chance of missing (5) So there we have it. While the 10% of killers remain successful on game, the other 90% gain success through shooting brick walls. Everyone gets a trophy.

To the OP, if you're still caught up in choosing between those 3 heads I would be interested in the Ozcut. Having said that, I would recommend you purchase an American made head like a Day6 or VPA before sending your money to factories overseas.

 

[Zac]

The argument I was making vs these two heads was based on value. In the end the GK is a high tolerance aluminum ferrule stainless head. GK is pricing their head in the same category as a head constructed of tool steel. I know they are both very sharp out of the package but only one of them is coming out of an animal shaving sharp. The question I asked earlier in this thread was why would someone choose the GK over the IW? No one has provided an intelligent answer to this. The GK is a good head I am sure. If they were priced around 60 dollars a 3 pack I would totally see the value in that.

 

[beforethehunt]

Bump, would love to hear more about kudu vs heavy bone


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[Stalker69]

I have used the iron will, German kenitic, and kudu. The single bevel heads I tried ( kudu being just one of them) I found no advantage, I still had them fail to penetrate even the thin shoulder blade on numerous occasions. ( about the same as most heads). If your worried about heavy bone ( have not found a broad head yet that will penetrate heavy bone even 50% of the time, it would be the cutthroat , or similar type one piece head) The iron will and German kenitic( ones made in Germany by Marcus) are both great heads. The iron will I have to keep coated with chap stick or other “ grease” to keep them from rusting. It does then attract dust to some extent, which then coats the quiver, where the arrow slides into the foam. Even the iron will wide is not as wide as the GK XL ( 1 1/2”) and the GK XXL ( 1 7/8”) is far wider. After using mech and finding they do offer a huge advantage over other heads, width of cut being the biggest advantage. The GK are my go to heads, both width, no rusting ( even with out chap stick) and retain an edge very well after passing through even the shield on bigger hogs. ( up to 2 1/2” thick shield ) . I had the blade bend on kudu and stricklands. I have had no issues with the iron will or the GK’s on any game animal, yet, or after missing or passing through an animal and having arrow hit gravel, dirt, trees or what ever. But then again, I don’t hunt cinder blocks or sheet metal. If I was to hunt either of those, my choice would be the cutthroat broadhead ( or similar built head) . Not for the single bevel, as i again don’t find it has an advantage ( even on cement) but it is a one piece,very sturdy broadhead. I find a super sharp, WIDE CUT, good blade angle, two blade head to work extremely well on any thing that bleeds.

 

[beforethehunt]

I have used the iron will, German kenitic, and kudu. The single bevel heads I tried ( kudu being just one of them) I found no advantage, I still had them fail to penetrate even the thin shoulder blade on numerous occasions. ( about the same as most heads). If your worried about heavy bone ( have not found a broad head yet that will penetrate heavy bone even 50% of the time, it would be the cutthroat , or similar type one piece head) The iron will and German kenitic( ones made in Germany by Marcus) are both great heads. The iron will I have to keep coated with chap stick or other “ grease” to keep them from rusting. It does then attract dust to some extent, which then coats the quiver, where the arrow slides into the foam. Even the iron will wide is not as wide as the GK XL ( 1 1/2”) and the GK XXL ( 1 7/8”) is far wider. After using mech and finding they do offer a huge advantage over other heads, width of cut being the biggest advantage. The GK are my go to heads, both width, no rusting ( even with out chap stick) and retain an edge very well after passing through even the shield on bigger hogs. ( up to 2 1/2” thick shield ) . I had the blade bend on kudu and stricklands. I have had no issues with the iron will or the GK’s on any game animal, yet, or after missing or passing through an animal and having arrow hit gravel, dirt, trees or what ever. But then again, I don’t hunt cinder blocks or sheet metal. If I was to hunt either of those, my choice would be the cutthroat broadhead ( or similar built head) . Not for the single bevel, as i again don’t find it has an advantage ( even on cement) but it is a one piece,very sturdy broadhead. I find a super sharp, WIDE CUT, good blade angle, two blade head to work extremely well on any thing that bleeds.

What heads do u recommend?


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[Stalker69]

There are so many heads that work, the vast majority in fact. I never believed I would use mech. heads and after trying them, I was amazed at how much better the blood trails were ( of course considering where the holes are put) and how much shorter tracking jobs were, how much quicker the animals died. Again if properly placed. That lead me on a fixed head that would do the same ( wide holes) I shot simmons broad heads ( very reasonably priced), I shot GK xl and xxl ( which I truly love). I tried all kinds of single bevel heads as they are supposed to cut bone and spiral through the animal, leaving better blood and assuring you two holes, that didn’t happen with any of the single bevel. Tried iron wills, as they are state side and known as very good heads which they are. But I don’t find they offer an advantage over 90% of the heads available. Same size holes, rust. But for sure get the job done. And then I splurged and bought some of the GK xl and XXL and found they are expensive but they actually do have an advantage in they offer a wide cut. ( just about mech, size holes with the sharpness and dependability of a fixed head. And if I could only shoot one head it would be the 125 gr. XL, but the XXL is even better ( width wise) but at a pretty big price difference. And I for one can’t afford to shoot the XXL at every thing. Deer and javelina small pigs I shoot the XXL, elk or large pigs the XL. ( but have no real issues using either for all animals) So I shoot gold tip shafts, with fact weights when using the XL to get my point weight the same as when I shoot the XXL and remove the weights. I can shoot both interchangeably, just add or remove the fact weights. If I want to shoot “ affordable ” heads I really like the exodus. They offer standard width cut, with great durability. And the ease of interchangeable blades. But again there are a ton of heads that will get the job done, when you put the arrow in the right spot. Including mechanical heads, which get a bad wrap by some ( including myself, although I have never had nor seen one“ fail” ) but work better then a lot of ( most) fixed heads, especially on thin skinned animals, deer , javelina, small pigs and such) if trying to keep cost down and still get two wide holes. Confidence in your equipment is a huge part, shoot something that flies great, and you have tested enough to have confidence in them.

 

[corey006]

How are the bloodtrails, IF needed, for the heads without bleeders?

 

[Stalker69]

I’ve found a wider hole, more beneficial then bleeders. But again most of it depends on what gets cut while the arrow passes through them.