If you had to drop 30lbs and couldn’t workout???

That is not helpful at all.

Sure go ahead make fun of overweight people, call them weak minded etc. It won’t change the situation.

Constructive advice and encouragement always gets better results than derogatory comparisons and shameing.

I did warn about the “holier than thou” purist who will disdain the “cheating” too easy way to rapid weightloss.
Are you sure it's not helpful? It's extremely helpful if taken. I think that perhaps what you see as chiding Is nothing more than the surest means of achieving a desirable outcome. Hand wringing and side stepping the obvious might make the sayer feel better about himself but, in most cases, only delays and avoids. All drugs have side effects and the doctors who recommend them can only regurgitate the latest data about them. It's the patient who pays the price. You are far better off taking responsibility for your own general health. Losing weight "is" simple and cost effective and if you're overweight, it's smart too. Jenny Craig and the local pill pusher need income to pay their bills too and they're more than happy to lead you on for years but if a good result is what you're after, just take matters into your own hands like you've been doing your whole life. Baby talk is for babies. People can handle the truth.
 
“Big Ass Yo Face Soup”

Sarcastic amount of vegetables + premade soup base = 150 calories or less. Add some meat for protein if you want. You’ll be stuffed.

Calories in < calories burned = weight loss.
 

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Without writing a novel here the Dr wants me to loose 30 lbs before June 17th.

I had a L4-L5 spinal fusion September ‘22. Follow up microdicectomy May of ‘23. Since then things got somewhat better but never even close to feeling good or pain free. The past 8 months or so things have gotten progressively worse. I’ve done hundreds of PT sessions, injections, spinal decompression, etc… You name it I’ve tried it. My disk below the fusion has ruptured and is not only out but out and down. I am scheduled for an L5-S1 fusion. Since they have to tie in to the existing fusion this surgery is higher risk and they will operate from the front on the 17th then from the back on the 19th. Pretty pissed about this whole thing but I have no choice because I can’t walk for more than a few feet. It’s constant shooting pain from my back into my left calf.


Anyway if you were told to drop 30lbs what would you do? For reference I started 6’2” 251lbs last week when I got the Drs orders. Was 283 4 years ago. Did a 3 day fast this past weekend and am at 244 now. My plan is a mix of fasting and carnivore but looking for ideas. Keep in mind any cardio or major lifting is out of the question .
I’d fast 18/6, lots of espresso and soda waters. I’d eat only what calories I really needed. 3 days can be mainly water weight. June is easy for 30lbs just don’t eat. A good multivitamin would be a good idea. Your body has plenty to burn on your body already, just don’t eat, like you’re cutting for wrestling. Barely eat. Gotta get to the pool if possible. Need that movement.
 
Without writing a novel here the Dr wants me to loose 30 lbs before June 17th.

I had a L4-L5 spinal fusion September ‘22. Follow up microdicectomy May of ‘23. Since then things got somewhat better but never even close to feeling good or pain free. The past 8 months or so things have gotten progressively worse. I’ve done hundreds of PT sessions, injections, spinal decompression, etc… You name it I’ve tried it. My disk below the fusion has ruptured and is not only out but out and down. I am scheduled for an L5-S1 fusion. Since they have to tie in to the existing fusion this surgery is higher risk and they will operate from the front on the 17th then from the back on the 19th. Pretty pissed about this whole thing but I have no choice because I can’t walk for more than a few feet. It’s constant shooting pain from my back into my left calf.


Anyway if you were told to drop 30lbs what would you do? For reference I started 6’2” 251lbs last week when I got the Drs orders. Was 283 4 years ago. Did a 3 day fast this past weekend and am at 244 now. My plan is a mix of fasting and carnivore but looking for ideas. Keep in mind any cardio or major lifting is out of the question .
Definitely research cold and heat therapy. I don’t have access to a sauna, but when in need of a good sweat I’ll shut the bathroom door, fill the tub with scorching hot water, place a small heater in there to warmup the room quicker (obviously away from the tub), let the water cooldown enough to get in, and sit in the tub for 15 minutes. Talk about sweating! Sweating out some toxins doesn’t hurt. Cold water therapy has multiple benefits as well. Water therapy may even alleviate some pain with your back. Also, if you consume alcohol, definitely avoid it while trying to lose weight. I’ll mix lemon juice in water and avoid sugary drinks.
 
It’s sometimes mentioned in terms of eating more small meals, but for me keeping the stomach from getting filled with food or water in big peaks helps hunger a lot.

I ate more small meals and it helped a little. It made as much if not more of a difference drinking water a cup at a time instead of a pint (red solo cup) less often. Water is important, just avoid big peaks.
 
When trying to lose weight exercise can be a double edged sword. The fact exercise burns calories absolutely helps to lose weight but this also comes at a cost of an increase in appetite that at times can be difficult to manage. Pick what works best for you.
Don't try to rush any weight loss plan. At the end of the day, losing one solid pound of fat per week, every week, is a total and complete success regardless of what you read elsewhere.
 
Caloric deficit: Find out your maintenance level which will be around 2,500 calories. If you go above your daily maintenance intake you will gain weight. To lose weight you need to be below your maintenance level. This is how people maintain a healthy weight. Fad diets are garbage. If you are able to exercise then your maintenance calories increase and allow you more calories to intake without gaining weight.

Intermittent fasting. Keto. Carnivore = Gimmick failure BS. I have not met 1 person who is consistently in good shape who promotes any of these diets. There are millions of people who have lost weight using these diets and will try and convince people that these diets work, but it's too hard to make these diets a lifestyle (not impossible, but not realistic for longevity on average).

People think exercise is the way to lose weight: You can't out run a fork! Diet is absolutely #1.
 
Best I did and felt great was with cutting sugar and limiting carbs to 50 per day. Eat whatever you want, just don't go above 50 carbs. I lost 20 lbs in about 30 days with just that change. A coworker did it too and lost 60 lbs in 6 months and has kept it off for a year now.
 
Kicking this thread to see how you are doing on the weight loss journey.
Do you have an update?
 
Without writing a novel here the Dr wants me to loose 30 lbs before June 17th.

I had a L4-L5 spinal fusion September ‘22. Follow up microdicectomy May of ‘23. Since then things got somewhat better but never even close to feeling good or pain free. The past 8 months or so things have gotten progressively worse. I’ve done hundreds of PT sessions, injections, spinal decompression, etc… You name it I’ve tried it. My disk below the fusion has ruptured and is not only out but out and down. I am scheduled for an L5-S1 fusion. Since they have to tie in to the existing fusion this surgery is higher risk and they will operate from the front on the 17th then from the back on the 19th. Pretty pissed about this whole thing but I have no choice because I can’t walk for more than a few feet. It’s constant shooting pain from my back into my left calf.


Anyway if you were told to drop 30lbs what would you do? For reference I started 6’2” 251lbs last week when I got the Drs orders. Was 283 4 years ago. Did a 3 day fast this past weekend and am at 244 now. My plan is a mix of fasting and carnivore but looking for ideas. Keep in mind any cardio or major lifting is out of the question .
I'm not sure how far you have gotten into your weight loss journey, but based on some of the advice I've seen on here I think you should steer far away from most of it. I do fitness competitions and go through a bulking cutting phase once or twice a year, usually gaining and cutting 30 pounds. Here is what i have found to be the simplest way to plan your diet.

Chat GPT. Get on the internet and search ChatGPT. A dialogue box will pop up. In the dialogue box type in something like:

Please give me a diet for XX year old male who weighs XXX on wants to lose 30 pounds in three months. You can tailor by saying you want a certain amount of protein daily (which is what I do) and also tell it you do not like certain things it recommends. After you fine tune it, copy and paste it into a word document and save it.

You will need a digital scale. They are like $20 on Amazon. You will also have to prep food a few times a week. If it isn't measured, it isn't managed. This is crucial because most people don't realize how large of a portion they are actually eating.

Other things..
No alcohol. Alcohol screws with insulin levels and will prevent you from loosing weight for 2-3 days post consumption.
LIttle to no dairy. It is an inflammatory in most people, whether they feel it or not. Just avoid it. Having creamer in your coffee is ok.
No refined sugar in anything.
Drink about a gallon of water daily.

I would try to get .75 grams of protein per pound of body weight.

Try to get some exercise. Walking counts.

Have your hormones checked. If your testosterone ifs off, which is probably is, getting on TRT will make a dramatic difference in how you feel and your energy levels.
 
Without writing a novel here the Dr wants me to loose 30 lbs before June 17th.

I had a L4-L5 spinal fusion September ‘22. Follow up microdicectomy May of ‘23. Since then things got somewhat better but never even close to feeling good or pain free. The past 8 months or so things have gotten progressively worse. I’ve done hundreds of PT sessions, injections, spinal decompression, etc… You name it I’ve tried it. My disk below the fusion has ruptured and is not only out but out and down. I am scheduled for an L5-S1 fusion. Since they have to tie in to the existing fusion this surgery is higher risk and they will operate from the front on the 17th then from the back on the 19th. Pretty pissed about this whole thing but I have no choice because I can’t walk for more than a few feet. It’s constant shooting pain from my back into my left calf.


Anyway if you were told to drop 30lbs what would you do? For reference I started 6’2” 251lbs last week when I got the Drs orders. Was 283 4 years ago. Did a 3 day fast this past weekend and am at 244 now. My plan is a mix of fasting and carnivore but looking for ideas. Keep in mind any cardio or major lifting is out of the question .


Any updates on your journey and which route you decided to take?
 
Frustrating…I am down 10-15 lbs depends on what time of day I weigh. The scale isn’t dropping as much as I would have liked, but I am definitely getting leaner. I am in three notches on my belt and can see the difference. I’m able to work out more than when I first posted this with just bands and the treadmill on incline. I take my nerve blocker meds with Advil in the morning and then about an hour after that I feel OK for a little bit so I’m able to get a workout in most days. I have two days worth of preop appointments next week so we will see if this weight loss is good enough. It better be.

As far as what I’m doing for the diet. basically sticking with Whole Foods, except for protein shakes. Very low carb. And I am mixing in some fasting. Doing 18/6 or 24 fast most day and have done some longer ones. One was 100 hours and one was 120 hours. The long fasts drop 10 lbs but the second you eat again half the weight comes right back. A few setbacks on the way also. Memorial weekend and had some beers a couple nights and holy shit does that reverse any progress real quick!
 
Intermittent fasting.

Walking morning and night. Though, not sure if that qualifies as working out.
 
I've skimmed the thread and lots of good suggestions.

Im going to say keto and heres why. I've personally seen several people in their 50s to early 60s loose weight on keto with no exercise. I've always avoided it thinking I couldn't stick to the strict plan.

Throw in some form of intermittent fasting and even the lightest of walking if possible and it's a game changer.

My reason for the post is to share my recent experience.
Age 55, 5'11", 230 with a goal of 210ish. Exercise 1-2 days per week, occasionally 3.
In 6 weeks I'm down 12 and have stalled but I feel like im not adhering to the diet well and have let some stray carbs back in. As a friend told me, I've transitioned to a maintenance plan too soon.

Heres my experience thus far.
Mild headaches 4 to 5 days a week, gone.
Hard crash on the way home requiring caffeine, gone.
Much better sleep.
Cholesterol way down, LDL in the green.
A1c from almost needing meds to in the green.
BP down from high 130s to mid 120s without meds.
 
Limit your diet. No more than 75 grams of fat per day.

I did this to try to lower my cholesterol. It worked but I lost 15 pounds. I only weighed about 170. I ended up going to cholesterol medication. 155 was way too low for me.

I know this is an old post but I couldn't help myself.

Man, please look into the cholesterol myth and the severely damaging effects statins have. You're being taken for a ride by a multi-billion industry at the cost of your health.

Low cholesterol will kill you before high cholesterol does.
 
Agree with those that mentioned fasting/balanced diet that focuses on clean food. Cut out or limit carbs (rice, bread, etc) and eat clean.

Some programs follow a 40/40/20 daily macronutrient diet. 40% Clean Protien, 40% Carb (good carbs) and 20% good fat.

If you want to go deeper into this, you can look into finding your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (https://tdeecalculator.net/) and working off of that number by counting the calories, fat, carbs, etc you consume.
 
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