Ideas for RIP TKO Arrow Set Up

[n8saki]

Coming from shooting high poundage heavy set ups [80lbs /558g arrows], want to experiment with a set up that I can use for both 3D fun shoots and hunting. My first self build, so interested in getting feedback on the front end of the arrow.

Current bow: V3X 33 29" DL / 75lbs - swapping strings to GAS as the stocks one lost 4lbs after 300 shots.
Arrows: RIP TKO [Already bought and cut 28.25 in, no front end as of yet]
Nock: Nockturnal
Fletching: AAE Stealth 3 L Fletched Helical - Have a ton, so I'm sticking with these
Target speed - 270-285 fps
Broadheads: Iron Will / Shwacker / Sevr. 100gr

268.8 gr - shaft with nockturnal avg wt.
27.6 gr - AAE Stealth 3 fletch avg wt.
TW so far 296.4
TW 396 with 100 gr broad head [not wanting to invest in 125gr.]

Open to thoughts and experience with insert, outsert, half-sert. My other set ups use IW collars and have they have served me well.

Don't want to make this a heavy vs light set up. I've ran both. Objective is good components & flying straight as long as I do my part.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Mighty Mouse]

A hidden insert (HIT) or Deep Six RPS insert are the only two options I would consider for a .204" arrow.

You'll need to add quite a bit of weight to slow that arrow down to your desired speed range. 500 gr TAW should put you around 285 fps. A 100 gr Iron Will or Ethics HIT (or a slightly lighter HIT plus a collar) would get you there.

 

[n8saki]

A hidden insert (HIT) or Deep Six RPS insert are the only two options I would consider for a .204" arrow.

You'll need to add quite a bit of weight to slow that arrow down to your desired speed range. 500 gr TAW should put you around 285 fps. A 100 gr Iron Will or Ethics HIT (or a slightly lighter HIT plus a collar) would get you there.

Thank you for the response. No experience with Ethics, would you say they are on par with Iron Will?

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

Thank you for the response. No experience with Ethics, would you say they are on par with Iron Will?

Yes but ethics annoys me because you have to sand/fit them even though you are ordering them in a specific size. IW are good to go from factory.
Mouse is spot on, my backup bow is almost identical, arrows as well, but 30” draw. 500g is going to put you right in that 280-285. How you get there is up to you, but I would do a 75g HIT, 25g collar, and 100g head.

 

[n8saki]

Yes but ethics annoys me because you have to sand/fit them even though you are ordering them in a specific size. IW are good to go from factory.
Mouse is spot on, my backup bow is almost identical, arrows as well, but 30” draw. 500g is going to put you right in that 280-285. How you get there is up to you, but I would do a 75g HIT, 25g collar, and 100g head.

Copy, thank you for the insight. Will stick with IW with some collars. Suggestions on epoxy vs hot melt for install? Thanks.

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

Copy, thank you for the insight. Will stick with IW with some collars. Suggestions on epoxy vs hot melt for install? Thanks.

I prefer epoxy, I don’t want them going anywhere once installed. A lot of people like the ability to pull components and tinker though, personal preference.

 

[Mighty Mouse]

Thank you for the response. No experience with Ethics, would you say they are on par with Iron Will?

I have no personal experience with Ethics components, but I wouldn't expect any issues with their HIT's fitting properly. Collars might be another story and may require sanding the arrow shaft to get a good fit.

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

I have no personal experience with Ethics components, but I wouldn't expect any issues with their HIT's fitting properly. Collars might be another story and may require sanding the arrow shaft to get a good fit.

Yea I should have been clearer, I was referring to the collars

 

[NYSKIER]

I shoot these arrows and I think you need the collars for sure. I've broken a lot of arrows with the half-outs and I feel its a strong arrow otherwise so the collars should make these excellent

 

[ncavi8tor]

I shoot the .300 RIP TKOs and love them! My build is IW HIT 50g inserts, IW 25g collars, 125g points/broadheads, 3 x Max Stealth vanes, and Bohning A nocks. TAW = 465 grains at 27.25" carbon to carbon.

I would recommend JB Weld 24 hour epoxy for the IW HITs. The Easton epoxy would not hold in those arrows for me even with a meticulous arrow prep including a bore brush inside the shaft. There have been numerous complaints regarding this issue.

NC

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[Brado16]

Another idea is to use Gold Tip .204 Traditional Steel inserts that take the GT Fact Weights that come in various sizes that can be added to the rear of the inserts from nock end.

 

[JoeDirt]

I built some RIPS, I used the Ethics HIT style (no sanding)

 

[ChileVerde]

I’ve been using RIP TKO .250s with Easton HIT 50 grain brass inserts and an iron will collar. Those are very durable and effective for hunting.

In my experience, the inside of the shaft needs to be lightly sanded or textured, then cleaned with alcohol for epoxy to hold well (at least the Easton epoxy). That recipe has been a winner for me.

 

[5MilesBack]

I shoot RIP TKO Elite 250's out of my PSE Freak at 75lbs and almost 33" draw. Cut to 30" CTC, 75gr brass HIT's and 125's, with Bohning A nocks and either three 2" QS vanes or four 2.1" Q2i Fusion xii's. They come in really close to 500gr and shoot very well. I use some golf club 24-hour epoxy on the inserts that has been working really well. No collars........can't stand them. No durability issues in the last two years.

 

[Evol]

I shoot .204 Rampages.

For 100gr broadheads its 50 brass insert, 25 collar, 100 bh. For 125 its 25 IW insert, 25 collar, 125 bh.

 

[TheViking]

Yes but ethics annoys me because you have to sand/fit them even though you are ordering them in a specific size. IW are good to go from factory.
Mouse is spot on, my backup bow is almost identical, arrows as well, but 30” draw. 500g is going to put you right in that 280-285. How you get there is up to you, but I would do a 75g HIT, 25g collar, and 100g head.

What’s your arrow setup for your 30” draw?

 

[Trial153]

.204 easy choice. IW steel HITS and collars. Pick the weight you want on each and your gtg

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

What’s your arrow setup for your 30” draw?

TKO 250 cut to 29.25, arrow wrap, 3 max stealth, 75g hit, 25g collar, 100g head
Comes in right at 500g

 

[TheViking]

TKO 250 cut to 29.25, arrow wrap, 3 max stealth, 75g hit, 25g collar, 100g head
Comes in right at 500g

Seems pretty stiff, no? I guess as long as it tunes!

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

Seems pretty stiff, no? I guess as long as it tunes!

I’m shooting 80lbs, at 70 I’d go up a spine