Compound vs crossbow

Folks that shoot compounds bitching about crossbows.... reality check time. Use whatever you want and go have fun.
Shooting a modern compound well is not really all that difficult. In the western woods I feel more handicapped with a clunky crossbow than a compound by a long shot.
 
To understand this debate, we must go back thousands of years to understand why each of these tools was created. First came the crossbow, a revolutionary instrument that redefined the lethality of humans. When and where it was first developed is a mystery, but until the evolution of capable firearms around the 15th century, it long held the title of most lethal weapon on the planet. In fact, the crossbow’s performance was so impressive that the early church wanted it banned (unless, of course, it was used on infidels).

The compound bow evolved much later, around the 1960s. Unlike the crossbow, which was developed for increased lethality, many historians believe the compound bow was spurred by two parallel developments:

1. The desire to wound animals at longer ranges than traditional bows (long bow or recurve) were capable of.

2. The innate human need to pontificate about the purity of hunting tool selection.

Today, the ancient hunting tool known as the crossbow as well as modern implement known as the compound bow have seen a resurgence. Both are commonly used for target shooting as well as big-game hunting.

While exceptions exist, most crossbow hunters choose this weapon to increase their lethality afield (i.e., kill animals quicker). This rational logic irritates compound devotees greatly. To them, anything that predates their 60-year-old technology must be cheating due to the historical advantages of pre-cocked limbs, a shoulder stock, and manually-operated triggers, overlooking their own usage of fiber-optic slider sights, trigger-actuated releases attached to their wrist, carbon-fiber arrows propelling CNC-machined stainless steel razor blades that deploy upon contact, and modern laser-rangefinding binoculars.

According to Crossbows Suck Big Time (CSBT) president Karen McCarron, crossbows are not just unethical—they pose a threat to the very future of sport hunting.

“The existential threat to the future of hunting in America isn’t anti-hunters or a growing population that encroaches upon natural habit,” said McCarron. “The real danger is crossbows. Think about all the unfair advantages they share with guns. They have a trigger, can accept a scope or red dot, and they can be used with shooting support for a steadier shot. Rumor has it that Vladimir Putin is planning to swap out Russian rifles for crossbows to complete the takeover of Ukraine. Do we really want weapons of war used for deer and elk hunting during archery season? The CSBT will do everything in our power to prevent this from happening.”
 
Hey guys,
This past June first, I wished my friends a happy crossbow month.
Say what you will, xbows are cheating, and trad bow folks are weird.
Come to the dark side, we shoot as far as we freaking can, and I need precision cut archery to help me hit anything under 20 yards.
If you disagree with me then you’re wrong 🤘
 
I always get a kick out of the crossbow crowd.

In one breath they'll tell you how crossbows are really no easier to use than a modern compound.

In the next breath, they'll tell you how we need to allow them so we can get new hunters involved (because they're easier).


For me, its a pretty big deal that a crossbow does not need to be dramatically manipulated while game is near. You cock it, load it, and at that point it is pretty much like shooting a firearm.

Old crossbows were heavy and unwieldy. These new ones are NOT!

And lets just drop the accuracy thing. I just watched a crossbow commercial, the gist of it being, 80-100 yards is no sweat.

Ive only ever shot a crossbow once in my life. It was 20 years ago at a sportsmens fair. I picked it up cold turkey in their booth there and stacked three bolts in about a 4-5 inch group at 60 yards. Thats all I need to know about them.

They have no place in archery only seasons unless you are LEGITIMATELY crippled up enough to where you cant physically draw a bow.
 
We found the crossbow to be a great tool for our kids when they were in the 6-10 age range before they were pulling enough weight on their compound bows to hunt effectively. They filled many tags that way. We did it on a budget. Our fist xbow was a used recurve limb we bought for 40.00 came with a new string. We then upgraded to the centerpoint with finger guards. Deer below shot from the ground in a swamp grass patch where we made a natural makeshift blind along a travel route in pre rut. Xbows have collected dust for years now though.
 

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I think at this point the antis just need to sit back and watch bow hunters cannibalize ourselves. Why do they need to fight us when we gladly fight each other. Elitism!!! Such a joke at this point. Compounds are easier then recurves, so lets get rid of the compounds. I can grab my compound with its sight and peep after not shooting for 4 months and hit the kill zone no problem. I've been bow hunting for 40yrs. I sure do hope its still here after another 40.
 
I think most of us would agree that bow hunting is harder than rifle hunting whether you use a compound or traditional gear. @JayRoot, you have been an archer for 40 years, I would hope you can pick up your compound after 4 months and shoot ok, you’ve learned that skill.
I can take someone who’s never shot a rifle before out for the afternoon and get them shooting good enough to hunt the next day. You can do the same with an xbow.
 
Here is something to think about on the crossbow topic.

I read that crossbows account for roughly 65-70% of the "archery" harvest in PA now and that they brought approximately 100,000 new "archers" into the archery season. (Thing is, they weren't "new" hunters, they were gun hunters that are taking advantage of the easier option, but I digress).

That may be fine back east where you guys have lots of deer and are actually looking for more ways to kill more deer.

But out west here, we often dont have that issue.

My biggest fear is if crossbows are allowed carte blanche in archery season, it will further increase archery pressure, the easier tool will equate to higher success rates, and we'll start to see limitations on our archery season.

It already takes me 6-8 years to draw a rifle any buck tag where I live. If I have to go to a lottery for my beloved archery tag, you'll loose me as a hunter.
 
@KBC, without a doubt archery hunting is harder then rifle hunting. I absolutely agree that you can get on target faster with a crossbow and rifle as a new hunter. Does that make compounds less ethical/effective then? And there for should not be used. I can counter and say a person can learn to shoot a compound faster then a recuve. This becomes a very slippery slope in my opinion.

For the record I hunt/have hunted with all of the above. Each one has its place for me. I enjoy them all. When I go with the crossbow, it does not mean I leave at the end of the hunt with a truck bed full of deer. And the same holds true for the rifle. When I hunt a state that does not allow crossbows I don't complain about either.

@Coyote Commander, do you have a link to that PA stat? I'm genuinely interested. I spend a lot of time hunting PA and have not seen a lot of people with crossbows where I hunt. So crossbows are easier then guns?

As for the higher harvest rates, PA is a one buck state, so if the hunter gets a buck in archery or rifle its still one buck.

When I first started bow hunting, there where very few where I lived that did it. As the years went on more and more people got into bow hunting. Which is great, well the gun hunters were not very happy about this and claimed that the bow hunters were shooting all the bucks. Can't win and cant make this stuff up!
 
This article states 68% of the PA "archery" harvest is crossbows.


This article states the same.

 
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