I wanna buy the Credo HX 2.5-15 but..

[gsully]

Is there a zero stop on the Credo? That might be a selling point.

I'm just now getting into FFP/Maven Rs1.2 and a little nervous about FFP and quick short range shots as well. But so far, like many are saying, it's just a duplex at short range. Point and shoot.

I kind of think of the FFP as getting multiple scopes in one; a duplex reticle for short range, hold over capable always correct sub tensions at mid range, and an advanced reticle at long range.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

Swfa 3-9 is the right choice. If you're in se pa I have a couple swfas you could look through, the mil quad is a great reticle for hunting AND because it's ffp you can hold for wind at any magnification. And that's what holds are for: wind. Dial elevation, gravity is real stable.

 

[barrister]

It's not on your list, but I really like the Trijicon Accupoint 4-16X50. I was originally considering the Credo but all of the reticles looked too busy for my personal taste. I also had concerns about feedback on the thin reticle. My purchase was for hunting purposes and my comfortable shooting range is 600 yards or less. I have two more being shipped right now for a couple current rifle projects.

 

[passinggas33]

Is there a zero stop on the Credo? That might be a selling point.

I'm just now getting into FFP/Maven Rs1.2 and a little nervous about FFP and quick short range shots as well. But so far, like many are saying, it's just a duplex at short range. Point and shoot.

I kind of think of the FFP as getting multiple scopes in one; a duplex reticle for short range, hold over capable always correct sub tensions at mid range, and an advanced reticle at long range.

Yes there is a zero stop on the Credo.

 

[Huntsalot]

Swfa 3-9 is the right choice. If you're in se pa I have a couple swfas you could look through, the mil quad is a great reticle for hunting AND because it's ffp you can hold for wind at any magnification. And that's what holds are for: wind. Dial elevation, gravity is real stable.

Thanks for the offer. For me 9x is good for about 150yds! I have 3 of the 2.5-10 swfa's but they're all on 100yd deer guns. I prefer SFP and dialing over holdovers.

 

[Huntsalot]

It's not on your list, but I really like the Trijicon Accupoint 4-16X50. I was originally considering the Credo but all of the reticles looked too busy for my personal taste. I also had concerns about feedback on the thin reticle. My purchase was for hunting purposes and my comfortable shooting range is 600 yards or less. I have two more being shipped right now for a couple current rifle projects.

I saw that option, looks nice. I don't believe it's been verified by the torture test though. That knocks it out for me. My Credo should be here on Tuesday!

 

[ResearchinStuff]

Thanks for the offer. For me 9x is good for about 150yds! I have 3 of the 2.5-10 swfa's but they're all on 100yd deer guns. I prefer SFP and dialing over holdovers.

What? My 8 year old killed a button buck at 300 this year, scope was on 4x. We have shot steel to 400, with the scope on 4x. Ffp scopes can dial for Elevation, just like I said in my first post. Holding over for elevation as a main strategy is dumb.

Sfp scopes cannot conveniently compensate for wind at anything other than max magnification. Ffp scopes can. That's the differentiator, and its a big one.

 

[Huntsalot]

What? My 8 year old killed a button buck at 300 this year, scope was on 4x. We have shot steel to 400, with the scope on 4x. Ffp scopes can dial for Elevation, just like I said in my first post. Holding over for elevation as a main strategy is dumb.

Sfp scopes cannot conveniently compensate for wind at anything other than max magnification. Ffp scopes can. That's the differentiator, and its a big one.

What's the confusion? I appreciate the recommendation but we have different opinions. I have zero desire to own a 9x scope on a several hundred yard gun. I've only ever used SFP and I've never compensated for wind. At the ranges I shoot, it's never been necessary. The Maven and SWFA I was considering were solely for the reliability. I was never going to use the FFP for holdovers or wind.

 

[nagibson1]

What's the confusion? I appreciate the recommendation but we have different opinions. I have zero desire to own a 9x scope on a several hundred yard gun. I've only ever used SFP and I've never compensated for wind. At the ranges I shoot, it's never been necessary. The Maven and SWFA I was considering were solely for the reliability. I was never going to use the FFP for holdovers or wind.

Huh? What are you planning to do for wind? Wind is almost like death and taxes. It'll be there. You have to compensate somehow. It's either by marks, dialing, or estimation on the target- but it's got to be something beyond 150yds or so IRL. The old BCD reticles assumed you'd do it by judging the distance on the target itself. But, when you get out there a ways, dialing or holding relative to marks in the reticle is a real plus. So you'd either need a FFP or know the conversions on your SFP, or have it on max magnification.
However, it sounds like you like a lot of magnification since you don't like 3-9 for over 150yds. If you're always going to shoot at 15x for shots that need adjustment, then FFP is moot.
I was trained to use the minimum magnification sufficient to the shot- to not get in your head with the increased shaking of the crosshairs, and so you could get a better sight picture on where you hit. I've never had a scope that had more than a 10x magnification.

 

[Huntsalot]

Huh? What are you planning to do for wind? Wind is almost like death and taxes. It'll be there. You have to compensate somehow. It's either by marks, dialing, or estimation on the target- but it's got to be something beyond 150yds or so IRL.

This is going on a Tikka .223 that I use for practice and rifle season in Pennsylvania. I have always used MOA and SFP and only dial when out West or practicing.

I've only ever used SFP and I've never compensated for wind. At the ranges I shoot, it's never been necessary.

Like I've already said, this scope is for hunting/practice in Pennsylvania. I've never had to compensate for wind and I never will at the ranges I shoot. All of my hunts are in the woods and a 150-200yd shot is really rare for me.

For practice I can shoot out to 350ish. I'll get a turret tape made for this scope just like I have on my NX8. For any shot that I can't just hold dead on, I dial. I'll never use hash marks.

Out West, I'll shoot to 350 if it's calm. As the wind increases my range decreases.

 

[z987k]

Like I've already said, this scope is for hunting/practice in Pennsylvania. I've never had to compensate for wind and I never will at the ranges I shoot. All of my hunts are in the woods and a 150-200yd shot is really rare for me.

For practice I can shoot out to 350ish. I'll get a turret tape made for this scope just like I have on my NX8. For any shot that I can't just hold dead on, I dial. I'll never use hash marks.

Out West, I'll shoot to 350 if it's calm. As the wind increases my range decreases.

Then something like the huron 3-12 or one of the higher power accupoints with just a duplex reticle might be more up your alley. And probably cheaper.

 

[Huntsalot]

Then something like the huron 3-12 or one of the higher power accupoints with just a duplex reticle might be more up your alley. And probably cheaper.

The Credo is being delivered today. If the 3 to 12 Huron ever passes the torture test, I’ll definitely buy one for another rifle.

 

[nagibson1]

The Credo is being delivered today. If the 3 to 12 Huron ever passes the torture test, I’ll definitely buy one for another rifle.

Form did test a Huron and it passed. He normally does one per scope family.

 

[Huntsalot]

Form did test a Huron and it passed. He normally does one per scope family.

He tested a 3-9, 1" tube. The other models are 30mm. I've never seen him comment that those models pass without testing.

 

[nagibson1]

He tested a 3-9, 1" tube. The other models are 30mm. I've never seen him comment that those models pass without testing.

True. Also, everything he's done by trijicon has passed.