I hate muzzle brakes!

[khuber84]

Brakes have their place, in competition trying for every advantage, that's it. Double up on ear pro tho!

 

[Marshfly]

The sheer amount of ignorance, refusal to learn, and denial in the population at large on the topics of hearing damage and concussion and the simple methods of prevention of the same is mind blowing. Wow. You see the same nonsense with parents in youth sports.

Nobody looks tougher because they ignore this stuff.

 

[Schmo]

The sheer amount of ignorance, refusal to learn, and denial in the population at large on the topics of hearing damage and concussion and the simple methods of prevention of the same is mind blowing. Wow. You see the same nonsense with parents in youth sports.

Nobody looks tougher because they ignore this stuff.

As for me, I’m going suppressed. And I’ll enjoy it

 

[Pilsner]

Me too.
Ugliest thing ever invented.
I’d rather drive a mini cooper.

I hope that you lie to yourself as well as you do on here. Wait until you can not hear your wife tell you that she loves you or your girlfriend tell you that she will do that thing that your wife will not - then get back with me. I'll wait.

 

[ElPollo]

The sheer amount of ignorance, refusal to learn, and denial in the population at large on the topics of hearing damage and concussion and the simple methods of prevention of the same is mind blowing. Wow. You see the same nonsense with parents in youth sports.

Nobody looks tougher because they ignore this stuff.

Despite what we thought in the 1990s, the internet is not exactly making people smarter. It’s just become a place where stupid ideas get affirmed by other stupid people.

 

[Turkeytider]

Wasn’t long ago that all my rifles wore them and I didn’t understand all the bitching about them. My attitude was that guns are loud so I just doubled up on ear pro. Fast forward to shooting suppressed a bunch and then going to a rifle or two with a brake and I now have very little tolerance for the concussion because I no longer see it as a normal thing I need to accept

The noise doesn’t bother me. The concussion does, so even though I might be shooting my braked rifle as well, if a guy sets up directly adjacent to me with a brake, that’s usually the end of my range day. Fortunately, at my club, that’s a rare occurrence.

 

[Laelkhunter]

Yeah that ain’t happening with a 9# 338 Norma Improved pushing a 275 grain bullet at 3100fps, with a suppressor at least.

I can spot shots past 500 with a brake.

AND you don't have to lug around a rifle with an extra 10 inches of metal hanging on the end of it. My hunts sometimes last 3 or 4 days, and lugging a "can" around through brush, etc for that entire time is a pain. Whereas a brake doesn't add anything to the length or weight, and you only have the discomfort of the muzzle blast with one or two shots, which I can mitigate with quality ear protection. What I'm saying is, I will keep my brake, Thanks. If I hunted primarily from a stand and didn't have to hump mountain trails with my rifle, I would prefer a can, but when I do have to carry it for several days from sunup to sundown and the possibility of never having a shot at game, I prefer not to have to factor in the extra weight and length of the suppressor.

 

[roadrunner]

You do realize that every time you have a little ringing, that is permanent damage, right? You may think that ringing is going away, but the damage stays and eventually so does the ringing. My left ear started doing that in my mid-40s. In my mid-50s now and I say “huh?” and “what?” way too much. Having a conversation in a bar or a restaurant or a stairwell is really hard. Wish I had suppressors about 20 years earlier.

Where did I ever say a little ringing wasn't permanent damage?

Where did I ever say I thought it would go away and be a non-issue?

Never is where.

 

[lager]

After using a can on most of my rifles for the past year, I dont like shooting brakes much anymore either. All my brakes are 90 degree side ports. I dont want to be close to those that have ports that are angled back towards the shooter, regardless if they do mitigate recoil a little better.

 

[roadrunner]

And there you have it. No further discussion required as some dude on the Internet said it is a non-issue.

Kind of like all you sheeple that think it's the zombie apocalypse and the world is coming to an end because of muzzlebreaks.

Apparently I hurt your feelings when I said a muzzlebreak didn't have the impact y'all pretend it should have had.

Afterall, this thread is about validation in using suppressors. If it were so right, why the need for a support group and thread rant? You big-issue "internet dudes" have it all figured and out and are right 101% of the time. My bad.

Do yourselves a favor and do some research of your own on the impact that natural frequencies have.

Where was RS at 35 years ago to teach me everything I needed to know about anything because of a bunch of "dudes on the internet" parroting the same narrative; caliber selection, suppressors and "ear pro", bullet design, the hogwash on energy, footwear, scopes, first aid, investing, careers, you name it.

I love RS and the intolerance it has on differing opinions.

But then again, maybe I'm more concussed with brain damage than I realize...

 

[ElPollo]

Kind of like all you sheeple that think it's the zombie apocalypse and the world is coming to an end because of muzzlebreaks.

Apparently I hurt your feelings when I said a muzzlebreak didn't have the impact y'all pretend it should have had.

Afterall, this thread is about validation in using suppressors. If it were so right, why the need for a support group and thread rant? You big-issue "internet dudes" have it all figured and out and are right 101% of the time. My bad.

Do yourselves a favor and do some research of your own on the impact that natural frequencies have.

Where was RS at 35 years ago to teach me everything I needed to know about anything because of a bunch of "dudes on the internet" parroting the same narrative; caliber selection, suppressors and "ear pro", bullet design, the hogwash on energy, footwear, scopes, first aid, investing, careers, you name it.

I love RS and the intolerance it has on differing opinions.

But then again, maybe I'm more concussed with brain damage than I realize...

Free country. You are welcome to think what you want. My post was intended to be helpful. I might be older than you, but didn’t say I was smarter. If I was my left ear wouldn’t be having such a good time without me. All it ever says to me is “Weeeeeeeee!…”

 

[khuber84]

And I'm un-following this post. What a bunch of fn divas. Oooo F your brake! A guy can shoot what he wants, it's a free country(kinda.....well not really)

 

[ElPollo]

And I'm un-following this post. What a bunch of fn divas. Oooo F your brake! A guy can shoot what he wants, it's a free country(kinda.....well not really)

“Feelings…. Nothing more than feelings…”

 

[Harvey_NW]

Kind of like all you sheeple that think it's the zombie apocalypse and the world is coming to an end because of muzzlebreaks.

Apparently I hurt your feelings when I said a muzzlebreak didn't have the impact y'all pretend it should have had.

Afterall, this thread is about validation in using suppressors. If it were so right, why the need for a support group and thread rant? You big-issue "internet dudes" have it all figured and out and are right 101% of the time. My bad.

Do yourselves a favor and do some research of your own on the impact that natural frequencies have.

Where was RS at 35 years ago to teach me everything I needed to know about anything because of a bunch of "dudes on the internet" parroting the same narrative; caliber selection, suppressors and "ear pro", bullet design, the hogwash on energy, footwear, scopes, first aid, investing, careers, you name it.

I love RS and the intolerance it has on differing opinions.

But then again, maybe I'm more concussed with brain damage than I realize...

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[Schmo]

Afterall, this thread is about validation in using suppressors. If it were so right, why the need for a support group and thread rant? You big-issue "internet dudes" have it all figured and out and are right 101% of the time. My bad.

Since I’m the OP, I need to correct your statement. I did not in any way start this thread to validate suppressor use. When I started this thread, I hadn’t even purchased a suppressor. I knew I was going to buy a suppressor, but that’s not why this thread was started. I started it sorta being dumb, but with an honest complaint about the brake on a Tikka 6.5 PRC that I was working with for a family member.

We don’t “have it all figured out.” What I will say about brakes, is if one layer of ear pro isn’t enough, or if you leave a range session with a headache, the blast/concussion is doing some kind of damage to your hearing/brain. Not sure how you can say it doesn’t. Except for very large high recoiling rifles, such as 33XC, etc, if the only way you can shoot it is with a brake, it’s probably too much for you.

Hunting with a brake is just dumb to me. I’ve done it, and don’t like it. You either have to stop and put ear pro in before you can shoot, or you shoot without ear pro and permanent damage your hearing. When hunting with a buddy, how are you supposed to communicate with ear pro on, unless electronic ear pro is used. I ran into this scenario last season, and had to eat the blast from a 6.5 PRC because we needed to be able to communicate when setting up for the shot.

 

[TxLite]

I try to avoid indoor ranges as much as possible. But there is one right next to my office so I will sometimes go there for load dev on my lunch break.

Most days nobody is there, but some days I will get put next to someone with a 8” braked ar pistol and it is downright obnoxious. They think it’s hilarious

 

[Mtndawger]

I had one next to me at a 100 yard indoor range some guy had on an AR-10. Even with ear plugs under muffs I had ringing and a headache the next day. I’ll leave the next time. Brutal.

I was at a local range last fall and a couple guys showed up with one of those. They insisted I shoot it. I honestly don’t understand why so many think that is so fun. Plus couldn’t hit a 24” target @ 50 yards but I know that is about technique and practice. Absolutely brutal concussion. Ear muffs over plugs ain’t enough.

 

[manitou1]

I hope that you lie to yourself as well as you do on here. Wait until you can not hear your wife tell you that she loves you or your girlfriend tell you that she will do that thing that your wife will not - then get back with me. I'll wait.

Well, it’s YOUR girlfriend. Ask her if I can’t hear her.

 

[manitou1]

You don't want to see evidence. This link is the first result from a google search for "muzzle brake brain damage"

Can Shooting Cause Brain Damage? The Science, the Bad News, and the Solution

Beyond hearing damage, are shooters and hunters susceptible to Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI)? We share the bad news, the science and the solution.

shwat.com

Overpressure Exposure From .50-Caliber Rifle Training Is Associated With Increased Amyloid Beta Peptides in Serum - PMC

Background: Overpressure (OP) is an increase in air pressure above normal atmospheric levels. Military personnel are repeatedly exposed to low levels of OP caused by various weapon systems. Repeated OP may increase risk of neurological disease or ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Protecting Warfighters from Blast Injury

Developing strong, pragmatic and principled national security and defense policies.

www.cnas.org

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C’mon guys. Huge difference between a leisurely day at the rifle range with your 6.5 prc and combat. Been there, done that more than once.

 

[KenLee]

I try to avoid indoor ranges as much as possible. But there is one right next to my office so I will sometimes go there for load dev on my lunch break.

Most days nobody is there, but some days I will get put next to someone with a 8” braked ar pistol and it is downright obnoxious. They think it’s hilarious

"They think it’s hilarious"

and some folks need an ass whoopin.