I hate muzzle brakes!

[manitou1]

If suppressors and muzzle brakes were invented today, Suppressors would be mandated on new firearms and brakes would be outlawed due to the hearing and brain damage.

I have yet to see evidence they cause brain damage.

 

[manitou1]

I'll keep my 26" barrels everyday rather than have that big ugly thing hanging off the end of my barrel regardless of weight.

Me too.
Ugliest thing ever invented.
I’d rather drive a mini cooper.

 

[flyfisher117]

I love my A419 Hellfire Match. It does indeed suck to shoot under the covered roof at my range. Definitely keeps the benches clear on either side.

 

[Marshfly]

I have yet to see evidence they cause brain damage.

You don't want to see evidence. This link is the first result from a google search for "muzzle brake brain damage"

Can Shooting Cause Brain Damage? The Science, the Bad News, and the Solution

Beyond hearing damage, are shooters and hunters susceptible to Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI)? We share the bad news, the science and the solution.

shwat.com

Overpressure Exposure From .50-Caliber Rifle Training Is Associated With Increased Amyloid Beta Peptides in Serum - PMC

Background: Overpressure (OP) is an increase in air pressure above normal atmospheric levels. Military personnel are repeatedly exposed to low levels of OP caused by various weapon systems. Repeated OP may increase risk of neurological disease or ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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[JGRaider]

Me too.
Ugliest thing ever invented.
I’d rather drive a mini cooper.

Yep, that's the first thing I consider when going on a hunting trip.....what my gear looks like.

 

[cottonant]

Get yourself a severe case of tinnitus and you will hate muzzle brakes more than you could have ever imagined.

Will likely never shoot another PRS match because of the muzzle brakes.

 

[Turkeytider]

Being next to one at the range is terrible. I've worn earplugs under muffs and still felt as if my tooth enamel were going to shatter.

I have one on one of my rifles, but even so, understand totally how people feel about them. I will not set up directly next to another shooter. If, however, someone sets up next to me knowing I’m shooting a brake then that’s their affair. I double on ear pro even though mine is a 90 degree brake. Absolutely no concussion back to me as the shooter.

 

[Turkeytider]

You don't want to see evidence. This link is the first result from a google search for "muzzle brake brain damage"

Can Shooting Cause Brain Damage? The Science, the Bad News, and the Solution

Beyond hearing damage, are shooters and hunters susceptible to Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI)? We share the bad news, the science and the solution.

shwat.com

Overpressure Exposure From .50-Caliber Rifle Training Is Associated With Increased Amyloid Beta Peptides in Serum - PMC

Background: Overpressure (OP) is an increase in air pressure above normal atmospheric levels. Military personnel are repeatedly exposed to low levels of OP caused by various weapon systems. Repeated OP may increase risk of neurological disease or ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Protecting Warfighters from Blast Injury

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Have a 90 degree Hawkins Precision brake. Absolutely no concussion to the shooter and I never set up without an empty bay adjacent on either side. Not my intention to ruin somebody else’s range day.

 

[wind gypsy]

Wasn’t long ago that all my rifles wore them and I didn’t understand all the bitching about them. My attitude was that guns are loud so I just doubled up on ear pro. Fast forward to shooting suppressed a bunch and then going to a rifle or two with a brake and I now have very little tolerance for the concussion because I no longer see it as a thing I need to accept

 

[Mike D Texas]

Probably not...but I dont need 338 to to hunt..getting close is the fun part..I will keep my 6lb 18" 308 and hunt for a responsible shot under 400yds. That's what makes it fun for me.

Smaller cartridges do not need a brake.

Bigger ones like I mentioned do. I do hunt and shoot long range so spotting shots is way more important to me than dealing with the recoil.

I prefer shooting suppressed every time I can, but it doesn’t meet my wants on a larger cartridge.

 

[Marshfly]

Have a 90 degree Hawkins Precision brake. Absolutely no concussion to the shooter and I never set up without an empty bay adjacent on either side. Not my intention to ruin somebody else’s range day.

The above turns into the below once you shoot suppressed a little bit. You don't know what you don't know.

Wasn’t long ago that all my rifles wore them and I didn’t understand all the bitching about them. My attitude was that guns are loud so I just doubled up on ear pro. Fast forward to shooting suppressed a bunch and then going to a rifle or two with a brake and I now have very little tolerance for the concussion because I no longer see it as a normal thing I need to accept

 

[Seeknelk]

Yep, that's the first thing I consider when going on a hunting trip.....what my gear looks like.

Absolutely!, appearance is soooooooo important. Not function!

 

[Harvey_NW]

Get yourself a severe case of tinnitus and you will hate muzzle brakes more than you could have ever imagined.

Will likely never shoot another PRS match because of the muzzle brakes.

. I have permanent tinnitus and significant hearing loss in my left ear from using a brake without ear pro on a hunt like a dumbass. 4 shots into a stubborn rutty muley buck and my life was changed forever. Suppressors for the win.

 

[Pilsner]

Once you realize those headaches are from brain damage, your entire view changes. Another change comes when you have constant ringing and your kids/wife can hear bugles, gobbles, etc. that you can't. And I am only mid 40s.

I just got fitted for hearing aids on tuesday.
I'm 45 years old

 

[Marshfly]

I just got fitted for hearing aids on tuesday.
I'm 45 years old

Good for you man.

I had my first screening since grade school yesterday. Got a "normal" outcome except for the tinnitus thankfully. I'm still looking hard at one of the higher end electronic custom ear pod solutions for turkey and archery elk.

 

[roadrunner]

You don't want to see evidence. This link is the first result from a google search for "muzzle brake brain damage"

Can Shooting Cause Brain Damage? The Science, the Bad News, and the Solution

Beyond hearing damage, are shooters and hunters susceptible to Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI)? We share the bad news, the science and the solution.

shwat.com

Overpressure Exposure From .50-Caliber Rifle Training Is Associated With Increased Amyloid Beta Peptides in Serum - PMC

Background: Overpressure (OP) is an increase in air pressure above normal atmospheric levels. Military personnel are repeatedly exposed to low levels of OP caused by various weapon systems. Repeated OP may increase risk of neurological disease or ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Protecting Warfighters from Blast Injury

Developing strong, pragmatic and principled national security and defense policies.

www.cnas.org

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The first one is as anecdotal as anything else. I have my own also and they carry as much or no credibility as everyone else's.

The other two are completely irrelevant in regard to a typical hunting scenario, and yes, even practice in a wide open space.

My non-credible and very non-peer reviewed anecdotal evidence (since everyone in the shooting forums thinks they are research PhD's) is my last oryx hunt on WSMR. Two shots from my 7mm WSM with a custom muzzle break shot within less than a minute from each other. Zero headache. Zero nausea. Zero nose bleeding or hemorrhaging in my ear canals. Zero dizziness.

Ear ringing a little? Well duh...of course there was. I do not have constant ringing in my ears. My last hearing test when I renewed my captain's license showed no hearing loss to need corrective hearing.

I left my mid 40's a few years ago...

 

[AZ_Hunter_2000]

The first one is as anecdotal as anything else. I have my own also and they carry as much or no credibility as everyone else's.

The other two are completely irrelevant in regard to a typical hunting scenario, and yes, even practice in a wide open space.

My non-credible and very non-peer reviewed anecdotal evidence (since everyone in the shooting forums thinks they are research PhD's) is my last oryx hunt on WSMR. Two shots from my 7mm WSM with a custom muzzle break shot within less than a minute from each other. Zero headache. Zero nausea. Zero nose bleeding or hemorrhaging in my ear canals. Zero dizziness.

Ear ringing a little? Well duh...of course there was. I do not have constant ringing in my ears. My last hearing test when I renewed my captain's license showed no hearing loss to need corrective hearing.

I left my mid 40's a few years ago...

And there you have it. No further discussion required as some dude on the Internet said it is a non-issue.

 

[ElPollo]

The first one is as anecdotal as anything else. I have my own also and they carry as much or no credibility as everyone else's.

The other two are completely irrelevant in regard to a typical hunting scenario, and yes, even practice in a wide open space.

My non-credible and very non-peer reviewed anecdotal evidence (since everyone in the shooting forums thinks they are research PhD's) is my last oryx hunt on WSMR. Two shots from my 7mm WSM with a custom muzzle break shot within less than a minute from each other. Zero headache. Zero nausea. Zero nose bleeding or hemorrhaging in my ear canals. Zero dizziness.

Ear ringing a little? Well duh...of course there was. I do not have constant ringing in my ears. My last hearing test when I renewed my captain's license showed no hearing loss to need corrective hearing.

I left my mid 40's a few years ago...

You do realize that every time you have a little ringing, that is permanent damage, right? You may think that ringing is going away, but the damage stays and eventually so does the ringing. My left ear started doing that in my mid-40s. In my mid-50s now and I say “huh?” and “what?” way too much. Having a conversation in a bar or a restaurant or a stairwell is really hard. Wish I had suppressors about 20 years earlier.

 

[ElPollo]

And there you have it. No further discussion required as some dude on the Internet said it is a non-issue.

Not just some dude. He’s a captain.

 

[mt terry d]

Just met up with an old friend I hadn't seen or hunted with in 20 years.
Had a torn retina recently repaired.
Went out to the range to shoot his braked 270
One shot and he put it away. Getting a suppressor.