On first violation, I tend to agree. I must be getting soft in my old days. Second violation, hang the bitches ass. Bitches, a generic term for any violators.I’m not sure it should ruin a life either but I also don’t think you should be making a living as a “hunter” if you’ve got violations
I loved when he featured pictures the other day of Bob Beck posing with a buck. Birds of a feather…Unfortunately, it doesn't matter to sponsors/companies. Look at MuleyGeek...Dude is now talking back to people saying the charges were dropped and the state apologized for charging him. Guy is a complete @$$ Hat. But he still has companies backing him.
I agree with regular folks...but outfitters need held to higher standard. It's like that for most professionals in their chosen field.On first violation, I tend to agree. I must be getting soft in my old days. Second violation, hang the bitches ass. Bitches, a generic term for any violators.
I agree with regular folks...but outfitters need held to higher standard. It's like that for most professionals in their chosen field.
Growing a poor rural farming community poaching was very common over 40 years ago. Many of my friends' families would shoot wt does to feed their families.
Wolf tag/elk tag ordeal?Honestly we’re too quick to forgive. Mark Carter is doing just fine. Dude didn’t even sound like he thought he did anything wrong on the THP and Free Range American pods he did. Look at the recent GU Unfiltered/MHGA beef. GU isn’t going to get any real criticism for giving a platform to Alex Nestor, and Nestor still works in the industry. It’s also unlikely Brian Call faces any real blowback for the wolf tag/elk tag ordeal.
I don’t think their lives should be ruined, but these guys seem to get to move on pretty quick and pretend it never happened.
He shot a wolf he could have tagged with his elk tag (apparently legal in Idaho), thought he missed, then went to purchase a wolf tag. The next day he found the wolf and tagged it with the wolf tag (that he didn’t have when he shot it) to avoid having to go get another elk tag.Wolf tag/elk tag ordeal?
Still a thing in rural NM.There's actually probably more of that today than we think...
Interesting, do you think it was his intent to not tag the wolf, go back to town and get a tag and then accidentally stumble across it?He shot a wolf he could have tagged with his elk tag (apparently legal in Idaho), thought he missed, then went to purchase a wolf tag. The next day he found the wolf and tagged it with the wolf tag (that he didn’t have when he shot it) to avoid having to go get another elk tag.
My timeline may be a bit off but that’s the gist. It may seem minor, but he didn’t have the tag when he shot the animal. Doing the right thing only when it’s convenient doesn’t say much about one’s character.
The thought certainly crossed my mind, but he insists he thought he missed and the wolf showed no sign of being hit.Interesting, do you think it was his intent to not tag the wolf, go back to town and get a tag and then accidentally stumble across it?
NM has a 72 hour, or so wait time between buying tags and hunting. Probably for this reason.Buying a wolf tag one day then punching it the next would be a huge red flag for me if I was a game warden. Wolves aren't that commonly shot.
People that hunt in wolf areas that don't have a wolf tag in their pocket just blow me away. A NR wolf permit in ID is 30 bucks for crying out loud! If you are spending all that money coming into the state to hunt why would you not have that tag in your pocket in the off chance you run into a wolf? I always have 2 wolf tags on me anywhere I hunt in MT.Buying a wolf tag one day then punching it the next would be a huge red flag for me if I was a game warden. Wolves aren't that commonly shot.
Agreed. And if someone claims to poach to feed their family now I call BS. Most states have programs to help with this. Food banks, roadkill salvage laws, Game and Fish agencies also have lists to help get rid of meat when they need.having spent 24 years as a game warden, I think you’re correct
50+ years ago you obviously had game animals poached to feed families- that’s the past, today most poaching is rooted solidly in ego and money
NM rule is 48 hours for bears and cougarNM has a 72 hour, or so wait time between buying tags and hunting. Probably for this reason.
Same with lion kills in AZ. Many rumors (some not so rumored) over the years of someone shooting one and the calls/texts go out for someone with a tag to show up and tag it or hide it and then go buy a tag to tag it.Buying a wolf tag one day then punching it the next would be a huge red flag for me if I was a game warden. Wolves aren't that commonly shot.
Thank you for the clarification. This thread reminded me to buy my bear tag, and saw that just now haha.NM rule is 48 hours for bears and cougar