Hunting property and what to look for?

[Dunndm]

I’ll start off by saying I’m not 100% sure if this is the best place to post it so sorry if it’s not.

I have recently been looking into buying some hunting property in different parts of the US. Mostly in western states like Wyoming and Montana. For people that have hunting property in these states what’s a good acreage to shoot for? I’ve seen quite a few 60-100 acre lots in central and south western Wyoming for cheap. They are pretty far out in the middle of nowhere but they are bordered by millions of acres of BLM land. In said BLM land there is pronghorn, elk, deer, coyote, mountain lion, etc. everything you’d want to hunt. They allow housing on the property (I’m a contractor so I could do something small myself). All this said.

1) what’s a min acreage to look for?

2) how do you know if there is any sort of animal on said property?

3) is it a dumb idea to do this or best to just get tags like everyone else?

4) What should I be cautious of on the land?

5) give me any pros, cons, good or bad ideas on it. Genuinely curious.

Thank you in advance


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[OwenHa]

First off I'd make sure that you can readily draw tags in the units you are looking at. Also, 100 acres doesn't go far in the west in terms of holding game. If it were me I'd just buy a smaller propery in an area you like to hunt or spend that money to join a lease or buy a share on a much larger peice of hunting property.

 

[Dunndm]

First off I'd make sure that you can readily draw tags in the units you are looking at. Also, 100 acres doesn't go far in the west in terms of holding game. If it were me I'd just buy a smaller propery in an area you like to hunt or spend that money to join a lease or buy a share on a much larger peice of hunting property.

I’ve never looked into property sharing, just heard a lot of horror stories about people being dicks. So I’ve stayed away. A lot of tags are OTC from what I’ve seen if your on private land. So it really wouldn’t be a major factor


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[RS_Non-Res]

I found a list of OTC elk tags.
The first page of acreages are...
4140
4159
1789
3449
480*
121*
1329
634*

The ones with * are only alotted tags in a lottery.

TLDR: Its different out west.
Don't think in terms of what's the minimum amount of land.

 

[missjordan]

1. I don’t think acreage size matter if your going to be hunting the public around it anyways. Unless you wanted more acreage for a barn to bring horses or needed to hit minimum to be guaranteed some sort of landowner tag.

2. You’d have to know the area pretty well to know how animals move through the area. I’d personally look for a place that i can see myself hunting year after year, or an area I’m already hunting currently that I’d want to put roots down in. Personally i don’t think i would throw a dart on a map unless I’ve hunted the area several times.

3. I personally don’t think it’s dumb. The cons would be you’d be more limited to where you can hunt because a purchase is pretty permanent. But a pro would be creature comforts of home. And the fact that property appreciates in value so down the road you could sell it and make some money to start over again.

4. Things to be cautious about are easements, utility rights (unless your going off grid) and accessibility. Easements would be the big one. Also how accessible can a well be drilled. Maybe mineral rights.

5. Definitely making sure you can draw tags is a big one. Also would you use it a lot during the off season. How often do you see yourself driving from home to the cabin? What is the total commute time? If your building something can you see yourself driving there every weekend ish to get a structure up? Where is the closest town if you needed supplies?


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[bozeman]

Think about it this way- if the land is mainly for hunting. Do the math- Let’s say a $250k property….thats a $10k hunt each year for 25 years in diff locations….how old are you? Yes, you build no equity, but you also don’t have that debt. I’ve looked this over financially for years, just couldn’t get the $$ to pencil out. My .02

 

[Dunndm]

1. I don’t think acreage size matter if your going to be hunting the public around it anyways. Unless you wanted more acreage for a barn to bring horses or needed to hit minimum to be guaranteed some sort of landowner tag.

2. You’d have to know the area pretty well to know how animals move through the area. I’d personally look for a place that i can see myself hunting year after year, or an area I’m already hunting currently that I’d want to put roots down in. Personally i don’t think i would throw a dart on a map unless I’ve hunted the area several times.

3. I personally don’t think it’s dumb. The cons would be you’d be more limited to where you can hunt because a purchase is pretty permanent. But a pro would be creature comforts of home. And the fact that property appreciates in value so down the road you could sell it and make some money to start over again.

4. Things to be cautious about are easements, utility rights (unless your going off grid) and accessibility. Easements would be the big one. Also how accessible can a well be drilled. Maybe mineral rights.

5. Definitely making sure you can draw tags is a big one. Also would you use it a lot during the off season. How often do you see yourself driving from home to the cabin? What is the total commute time? If your building something can you see yourself driving there every weekend ish to get a structure up? Where is the closest town if you needed supplies?


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Those are all great thoughts.. I’m talking to my dad, brother and best friend about trying to find something we all feel comfortable pitching in on each month at this point instead of me going in solo. We are all meeting up this weekend so I’m going to pull this post up and ask all these questions so we can all ponder them.

As of now I want something large enough that we can get landowner tags for sure. That’s sorta the reason in my opinion at least to buy land.


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[Dunndm]

Think about it this way- if the land is mainly for hunting. Do the math- Let’s say a $250k property….thats a $10k hunt each year for 25 years in diff locations….how old are you? Yes, you build no equity, but you also don’t have that debt. I’ve looked this over financially for years, just couldn’t get the $$ to pencil out. My .02

I am young, 30 to be exact. Been very fortunate in my career and investments at my age to be in a great position. And no it’s not daddy’s money haha. I have property in a couple different states for rentals but this would be a hunting cabin for my family and I. I mean it is an investment but it’s more a place for my buddies and my family to spend holidays/hunting there


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[missjordan]

Those are all great thoughts.. I’m talking to my dad, brother and best friend about trying to find something we all feel comfortable pitching in on each month at this point instead of me going in solo. We are all meeting up this weekend so I’m going to pull this post up and ask all these questions so we can all ponder them.

As of now I want something large enough that we can get landowner tags for sure. That’s sorta the reason in my opinion at least to buy land.


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Best of luck. My spouse and i really want to do this also.

Since you said your talking about multiple people going in on this property. Definitely would also get a partnership agreement in place and maybe put it in a LLC. Would consult with an accountant and/or attorney for those logistics. But definitely need the partnership agreement for sure


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[bozeman]

Best of luck. My spouse and i really want to do this also.

Since you said your talking about multiple people going in on this property. Definitely would also get a partnership agreement in place and maybe put it in a LLC. Would consult with an accountant and/or attorney for those logistics. But definitely need the partnership agreement for sure


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This X1,000 especially with family involved and double especially with two generations involved......

 

[gentleman4561]

I work in the land business, not hunting/recreational but know the world of land very well.

I would look at this land as a place to build a cabin/house and an investment.

Look for land in the path of growth that is not covered in FEMA floodplain that can generate some form of income (lease to a farmer etc.)

 

[Dunndm]

Best of luck. My spouse and i really want to do this also.

Since you said your talking about multiple people going in on this property. Definitely would also get a partnership agreement in place and maybe put it in a LLC. Would consult with an accountant and/or attorney for those logistics. But definitely need the partnership agreement for sure


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Yeah it would go into an LLC with all 4 of us at 25% owner ship. We would have a separate bank account that the loan is pulled from each month that we all need to put money into so you couldn’t screw anyone over


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[intunegp]

Here are CPW's requirements for the Landowner Preference Program

Just using Colorado as an example because I live here. You can't just buy a 50 acre pasture and expect to get tags because of it. Not saying that's what you plan to do, but you also shouldn't assume you'll be eligible for tags just because you're buying property.

 

[Dunndm]

Here are CPW's requirements for the Landowner Preference Program

Just using Colorado as an example because I live here. You can't just buy a 50 acre pasture and expect to get tags because of it. Not saying that's what you plan to do, but you also shouldn't assume you'll be eligible for tags just because you're buying property.

With me plus 3 other people we are now looking at the 500 acre +. We are all builders in some way so we would build a 3/1 or 3/2 on the property as well


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[wytx]

Owning property in Wyoming does not make you a resident and you would still have to draw any NR licenses for your land or surrounding areas. However 160+ acres in Wyoming may qualify for LO licenses. Some may still be a draw though.
If you build and live on it then you may qualify as a resident.

 

[Charlie-NY]

I'm green at this but one thing I'd be looking for is the proximity to a large airport. If you pay the money and build a structure, you're sure going to want to spend some time there. The non-hunting season could provide some great recreational opportunities if it is not too difficult to get there and home again. You won't do it if you have to drive for days on end.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[HunterHawk]

Where do you live? I would buy something close to where I lived so it would be used... of course if you didn't live close by you could lease it out for seasons or whatever... I have been in the same boat of looking for property...just trying to figure out where but proximity to where I live, airports, weather factors, tags, investments, everything plays a factor! Definitely nothing you want to rush!

 

[Dunndm]

Where do you live? I would buy something close to where I lived so it would be used... of course if you didn't live close by you could lease it out for seasons or whatever... I have been in the same boat of looking for property...just trying to figure out where but proximity to where I live, airports, weather factors, tags, investments, everything plays a factor! Definitely nothing you want to rush!

I’m currently in Nevada and more and more I think of it. I’m looking at property now in northern Nevada, Utah and NM. Only problem is I don’t know anything about New Mexico beside the economy sucks hahaha. I have to do some search on tags and how owning land works with tags


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[Dirtscoots]

Also interested. So what is the best way to find pending properties? There has to be something better than Zillow ?

 

[Dunndm]

Also interested. So what is the best way to find pending properties? There has to be something better than Zillow ?

There is a couple different sites, I have them saved in my comp if you want to message me I can send you them


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