Paul B
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I had a 46b west desert sheep tag on the AZ mex border. Camped down there for 2 weeks chasing rams in the cabeza prieta. It doesn't get more remote then that
Just accept the fact that the people who watch FOX news know way more about the border situation than people who actually spend time down there.Well I just rode my bicycle 80 miles or so all over those dirt roads near the border in the same areas I'd hunt. I didn't encounter anything that would even get close to killing me. Funny thing is there's a lot of people doing the same thing all the time and still nobody dead yet
Exactly.Just accept the fact that the people who watch FOX news know way more about the border situation than people who actually spend time down there.
Pretty cool country in there isn’t it? A patch of desert that doesn’t exist like it anywhere else. The lack of or very very limited cattle left it mostly natural vegetation wise unlike the rest of our desert down here. The amount of cryptobiotic soil in there is mind boggling compared to the remnants found elsewhere. Too bad you have to look at all the darts and the rest of the junk. I don’t think the amount of Limberbush and Elephant tree there exist in those quantities anywhere else.I had a 46b west desert sheep tag on the AZ mex border. Camped down there for 2 weeks chasing rams in the cabeza prieta. It doesn't get more remote then that
Wow... aiding and abetting.Something many of us have done down here is to leave a milk crate full of old plastic jugs filled water and a small ice chest with random surplus food that you aren’t counting on for yourself. That way if you’re lucky they might not break into your truck looking for it and you never gave anything to anyone, they just took it. As disturbing as some of these activities being talked about are just remember if people were getting hurt or killed by all these folks coming up you’d hear about it. They don’t want anything like that to happen because it would kill their livelihood. They do their best to steer clear of you and vice versa. Mutual understanding.
Yeah but it helps to keep them from busting out a window in your truck. It’s not done out of the goodness of my heart After a couple of lefties got busted for some real “aiding and abetting” there was huge lefty outcry that “humanitarian aid is not a crime” and that pretty much ended anyone getting arrested for “aiding and abetting” illegals.Wow... aiding and abetting.
Every one of these examples I've given has happened dozens of times south of the border - anyone thinking it absolutely will not happen here is whistling past the graveyard. It is ungoverned space, and needs to be taken goddamned seriously.
Aiding and abetting for sure. Even with human nature, trying to do the right thing is dicey down there. I can give you real examples that have happen to our group years back. Had a illegal alien walk into camp on the Buenos Aires federal refuge. It was very cold, about 16 degrees. We sat him by the fire ,gave him some coffee. He told us in broken english to call the BP, we did. It took over 12 hrs for them to respond, yet their border station is about 2 miles away. When they got there they threatened us with aiding and abetting a felon so on and so forth. Lucky for us one of our party was a Fed drug cop. The second time in the same area a pregnant woman and her group of illegal's 6 or so came in and request the same deal call the BP, so we did. This time we had a game and fish group with us. BP had a Helicopter come down and fly her to TMC in Tucson, on your
tax dollars. TMC the only level one trauma center went broke in the late 90's because stuff like that happening everyday 365. My credo is ENTER at YOUR OWN RISK. I've spent plenty of time down there the 40 plus years.and it has changed alot and not for the good. Worked on most of the ranches and the refuge. I will say in the 80's when coca cola owned the ranch it was a better place.
They do have a substation in Three Points but that is still about 45 mi away from the border.The nearest Border Patrol station is Tucson,
and it’s a fair piece down to the refuge.
South of the border is not the US. Exactly NONE of those scenarios have happened on the US side. It’s not ungoverned space.
The cartels exist to make money. The killing of the occasional American LEO by a junky bandit is an unfortunate cost of doing business. This is understood by them and us.
Killing American civilians brings incredible heat and cartels go to great lengths to avoid it.
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I hunt near the border in San Diego County CA. Here we get a lot of military age male Chinese and African illegals. Most just want to get to a highway where they have an arranged pick-up on Tick Tok and won’t mess with you. Carry a handgun. Take a buddy. Never help the illegals. Have BP and Fish & Wildlife numbers programmed in your phone to report them. Be cautious and avoid the known smuggling routes.
Looked on their own. I did not see any coyotes with them. Likely asylum seekers.I was duck hunting near the border about 15 years ago and had a group come up on me, but they definitely weren’t Chinese or Africans. Thats pretty wild.
Were they on their own or being brought in with a coyote?
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Correct, but you can't swing a dead cat without running into the bp tearing up the desert. Takes around 30-5 minutes the way they drive from Tucson, don't fool yourself.The “border station” you’re referring to is the Port of Entry in Sasabe. They are NOT Border Patrol and have no jurisdiction outside the port.
The nearest Border Patrol station is Tucson,
and it’s a fair piece down to the refuge.
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