Hunting just for the kill

[MuleyFever]

Isn't hunting a management tool? Can that be accomplished without killing?

Well dont you know we can just give them all contraception? Isnt that the anti's argument with urban deer problems?

Kidding aside you bring up a good point. No mater what one does with the meat the act of culling animals from the population is a tool in the management process. So someone has to do it, venison eater or not.

 

[ssliger]

How do you feel about people that have a vegetable garden but don't eat vegetables?

I love to garden, grew up on a farm and have always grown stuff. But I don't do it for the harvest, I do it because I enjoy it and I enjoy giving the rewards of that harvest to others that don't have gardens. It's always a blessing for someone.

I will admit that if I never took another bite of game meat, I'd still be out there every single chance I got.......to make the kill. That part of me I can never get rid of. I was born that way. However, I still have the choice on whether to act on that passion.

Here's a question: What if you never had to actually make the kill, and you'd go out in the woods and find a bunch of meat already sitting there wrapped and cooled in a cooler. Would you still hunt? If so, why? BECAUSE OF THE KILL. If killing is not an option, then I'm not all that interested in hunting. Make no mistake about it, it's about the kill.....not the meat. The meat is just an added benefit of that kill. Unless it's a coyote or a wolf or a prairie dog, etc, etc.

How I feel about people that grow vegetables, but don't eat them. I would feel the same way. Why plant and grow vegetables if you are not going to eat them? Why kill an animal if you are not going to eat it? This has nothing to do with donating portions of your kill, or part of your vegetable harvest. The question was how you feel about people that hunt and kill animals but won't eat the meat. If I went to the woods to hunt and there was meat all cut up and packaged in a cooler, would I still hunt? Yes, I would. I take pride in hunting, taking an animal, processing the meat all myself. I try to learn how to use more of the animal every year, with new recipes and such. We cannot change the mind of the PETA anti crazies. But I can guarantee when a non-hunter sees that there are hunters out there that kill for joy and that's it. They're a lot closer to joining PETA than picking up a gun and giving hunting a try.

 

[5MilesBack]

But I can guarantee when a non-hunter sees that there are hunters out there that kill for joy and that's it. They're a lot closer to joining PETA than picking up a gun and giving hunting a try.

Not everybody is or will be a hunter. Some were born hunters, some were born bowlers. Some were born figure skaters. Thank goodness we weren't all born the same.

 

[Shrek]

I miss being on crop damage shooter permits like I was in years past. I like pulling the trigger and I don't pretend I don't.

 

[ssliger]

Not everybody is or will be a hunter. Some were born hunters, some were born bowlers. Some were born figure skaters. Thank goodness we weren't all born the same.

This is something we can agree on!

 

[charvey9]

So how do you cook 'yote to make it tasty? I watched the MeatEater episode where Steve and Remi shot and barbecued a song dog and heard Steve talk about it in his podcasts. Sounds like it was tough to stomach. Do you just grind all of the meat and make very heavily spiced sausage?

I'd love to get a cougar, on the other hand. I hear they are delicious.

I'm no expert, and tried it mostly just to say I tried it. It was just the backstrap. Similar to what I had seen done with bear on occasion I sliced it, marinated in lemon juice and garlic for a few hours, and grilled it. Tasted like lemon and garlic. I made some bobcat kabobs with the cat I got, and that meat was very bland. Used the front quarters in a stew and that was much better. Cat meat seems to take the flavor of whatever you cook it with pretty well. I also look forward to trying some mountain lion.

 

[tipsntails7]

How do you feel about people that have a vegetable garden but don't eat vegetables?

I love to garden, grew up on a farm and have always grown stuff. But I don't do it for the harvest, I do it because I enjoy it and I enjoy giving the rewards of that harvest to others that don't have gardens. It's always a blessing for someone.

I will admit that if I never took another bite of game meat, I'd still be out there every single chance I got.......to make the kill. That part of me I can never get rid of. I was born that way. However, I still have the choice on whether to act on that passion.

Here's a question: What if you never had to actually make the kill, and you'd go out in the woods and find a bunch of meat already sitting there wrapped and cooled in a cooler. Would you still hunt? If so, why? BECAUSE OF THE KILL. If killing is not an option, then I'm not all that interested in hunting. Make no mistake about it, it's about the kill.....not the meat. The meat is just an added benefit of that kill. Unless it's a coyote or a wolf or a prairie dog, etc, etc.

5miles I like a lot of stuff you say, but this is bordering on whacko territory. I don't enjoy taking the life of anything. I was raised by 4 generations of my family (Native Americans) to respect life and the animals that I kill and give thanks to them for giving their life for my food. Hunting roots came from the NEED to take life to eat not the want to extinguish it.

I don't mind If someone hunts and gives away meat although I find it very strange.

 

[Poser]

He said that those people that kill but don't eat the meat aren't his kind of people. I'm just wondering where he stands on vegetable growers that don't eat veggies.

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Since we (you, me and other hunters on this forum) don't raise deer or elk in a pen/garden bed to later "harvest" them, I don't think that comparison really works. Raising livestock might be comparable to raising a garden, but not hunting wild animals.

 

[Bar]

Actually, the killing is the part i've never been fond of. I love the hunt. The longer and harder the hunt the better.

 

[land cruiser]

Actually, the killing is the part i've never been fond of. I love the hunt. The longer and harder the hunt the better.

Stop carrying a weapon. You will hunt all the time and leave game did those that like to kill

 

[Finch]

I've lost some respect for a neighbor of mine due to this very issue. He's a big time hunter but doesn't eat the meat. He went turkey hunting last year (if you want to call it that) and killed one with his rifle about 100 yards away. That's another issue for another day though. He stopped by the house to show me and when I later asked him how the turkey tasted, he said he threw it away. I just shook my head and told him I would have taken it. Same thing with squirrels, he'll go hunt them for the hell of it and then throw them away. I know squirrel has a bad stigma so don't hunt them if you don't plan on eating them. He gives his deer away because his wife won't cook it. He just enjoys the kill but none of the added benefits that come with it.
For the record, I'm fine with people that enjoy the kill. Hell, I do too but at least consume the meat.

 

[Shrek]

. He stopped by the house to show me and when I later asked him how the turkey tasted, he said he threw it away. I just shook my head and told him I would have taken it. Same thing with squirrels, he'll go hunt them for the hell of it and then throw them away./QUOTE]

Throwing away the turkey was a crime ! Both literally and figuratively . There's nothing better eating than wild turkey imo and that was definitely wanton waste of game. Squirrel is ok but if you only have one there isn't much to do with a single tree rat. I've tossed a few tree rats I killed for getting into the attic or out of the pear tree in the yard but I didn't go hunting , I was killing pests.

 

[Bar]

Stop carrying a weapon. You will hunt all the time and leave game did those that like to kill

I do that all year while scouting. The killing is conservation, and I love elk meat. So, the killers will have to get their own.

 

[5MilesBack]

5miles I like a lot of stuff you say, but this is bordering on whacko territory. I don't enjoy taking the life of anything. I was raised by 4 generations of my family (Native Americans) to respect life and the animals that I kill and give thanks to them for giving their life for my food. Hunting roots came from the NEED to take life to eat not the want to extinguish it.

You must think predator hunters are completely crazy.

Quite frankly, I find hunting and not enjoying killing stuff to be whacko. Talk about a philosophical conundrum.

And I would never thank the animal for giving its life. I thank the Good Lord for providing it and the opportunity to take it.......for my consumption and enjoyment. Nothing whacko about that.

 

[Bar]

Neither is whacko. They're just different, and should be understood that we're not all built the same.

 

[Beendare]

Hmmm, I know a bunch of hunters......and not a one thinks like the guy in the OP

 

[realunlucky]

Quite frankly, I find hunting and not enjoying killing stuff to be whacko. Talk about a philosophical conundrum.

I don't think I've ever seen anybody say it's all about enjoying the killing.I defiantly don't enjoy killing but it is a fundamental process of hunting. There is nothing wrong with having admiration for all living things. Some creatures must die for others to live happens with or without our involvement.

 

[WRO]

I hunt to kill and I eat what I kill. I fish to kill fish, and I eat them too.

I make no apologies for the what I do.

 

[Bar]

I hunt to kill and I eat what I kill. I fish to kill fish, and I eat them too.

I make no apologies for the what I do.

You might want to read the first post again. Nobody asked for an apology.

 

[WRO]

Good no one is getting one .