How to start a fire in the rain

I am into Buschcraft . There are many items you can put in a Altoid tin fire kit. Rain or shine you can make a fire . Some of my items I put in mine.
Fat wood
Flint and steel
Magnifying glass
Fierro rodi
Cotton ball rubbed with Vaseline
Charcloth
Birch bark
Fish hook
Line
and many other items, your choice
A broken nicholson old file makes a good steel for flint and steel
piece of broken hacksaw blade makes a good srtiker for a ferro rod.
If you are interested in survival and fire starting, check out some of the Bushcraft sites.
 

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I am into Buschcraft . There are many items you can put in a Altoid tin fire kit. Rain or shine you can make a fire . Some of my items I put in mine.
Fat wood
Flint and steel
Magnifying glass
Fierro rodi
Cotton ball rubbed with Vaseline
Charcloth
Birch bark
Fish hook
Line
and many other items, your choice
A broken nicholson old file makes a good steel for flint and steel
piece of broken hacksaw blade makes a good srtiker for a ferro rod.
If you are interested in survival and fire starting, check out some of the Bushcraft sites.
Sorry for the rant.
 
These are supposed to weigh 3oz each and burn for 7 minutes. Probably the same as Orion, says Made in USA and a small business. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CTYQ1Z35/
Thinking I'll get a dozen and pass them out in camp this year.

Yup—those are the same it appears. I've gotten a full five minutes of blazing flare out of the ones I use—have started fires in some very challenging conditions w/ them.
 
The problem I have with the Bic style lighters is, if my Thum get wet it will also get the flint wet and no spark to light the gas. I now use a cigar lighter that does not use flint.
If you get a bic wet take the metal child safety off, and keep rolling the flint against your shirt under jacket, the friction will dry out the flint. Dropped bics in snow and water and got them going with this method.
 
Sorry for the rant.
It just true stuff. More than one way to make this milkshake. Altoid tins are the bomb - life saving stuff in a little, easy to carry package...

Am not into bushcraft but dad made us learn about fire at an early age - he'd give me and sister a match to carry around all day and then start a fire with later on. I'm sure it woulda been a ferro rod if those had been available at the time. Easier to use a ferro rod than for a kid to carry a match around.

At one point I was embarrassed to take 2 storm matches to get a fire started with wet stuff. Started carrying candles after that.

Using a flare is badass but I can see cutting thru the fluff somewhere you might need a fire in under say 3 minutes or could die - fall thru some ice, get to shore, pile up a bunch of frozen limbs and throw a flare under there while rigging a back reflector before you lose ability/mobility...

Good stuff on here.
 
A friend showed me, even in the soggy forest of Seattle area, the dead branches near the bottom of the tree (still connected to the trunk) were quite dry and able to catch fire.

That was a handy tip, as I had been mostly looking on the forest floor.
 
The recent sad story of the two young men reminds us of safety, it started some discussion on how to start a fire.

Here’s my two cents on that…



Forget everything you heard about an emergency fire starter kit.

Below is all you need to know, from someone who did it, during a heavy rain.



The scenario;

Temperature was in the 50s, rain and wind solid for days, dead sticks were soaked and spongy.

After hiking for more than 12 hours, nothing was dry anywhere, except for what was in my backpack.

Pitched the tent in the rain, needed to get body core temp up before diving in for the night, it was almost dark.



I built a dome of sticks while rain poured off the brim of my hat, started out not unlike other fire nests, except this one had to work. I only had one kit.

First a robust amount of tiny bird nest size sticks, then the pencil size sticks, and so on, up to wrist size branches.

Everything was dripping wet, but it didn’t matter, there were two keys to making it work.

First was the fire umbrella, for this - Tree bark. A nearby fallen birch tree provided plenty, placed atop the stick pile, rain was diverted.

The second key - my Fire kit, a small hollow area at bottom was left for this.

Under the tree bark umbrella, and out of the rain it lit right up, but it needed to dry out the sticks. Most kits won’t do this.

Smoke and steam followed for 10 minutes before the whole thing went ablaze, then logs got hurled on, with more tree bark in between.

It was still raining hard but the flames grew taller than me, before I stopped adding to it. Mission accomplished!



My fire kit; it resides in a Ziplock bag, is smaller that a golf ball, weighs about an ounce, and will save a life.



Here it is…

A McDonalds ketchup container, filled with curly wood shavings, a candle wick, and just enough wax to hold it all together.

It lights like a candle, and stays lit for a long time, then it turns into a mini blow torch. And my pack, always has one.



When hunting, be prepared, and keep situational awareness foremost, despite the distractions.
Just back from backcountry, so forgive my ignorance. Didn't the guys die from lightening strike? I did not read all the pages yet.

Good discussion regardless.
 
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