How to deal with game wardens?

[EastHumboldt]

Well that changes the complexion of his comments. I thought he was just a confrontational buddy of some scoff law rednecks….

 

[thinhorn_AK]

If people only knew how truly corrupt their state fish and game agencies are.

 

[KenLee]

W

Well that changes the complexion of his comments. I thought he was just a confrontational buddy of some scoff law rednecks….

Weeellll, kinda sorta years ago

 

[Pharmseller]

I think some of you missed that Ken is an attorney…

Okay, now, that makes his reply funny as hell.

 

[Poser]

 

[K9kodi]

Can I let my dog check out the back of your truck?

NO

Good luck. He doesn’t need permission

 

[tony]

For every turd cop, there are some that go above and beyond to hammer the guilty.
Case in point, this smug asshole.

CJ Alexander to Serve Time, Pay $43K for Poaching Giant Ohio Buck and Trying to Cover It Up

The Ohio man was sentenced to jail time and fined, ending a yearlong investigation into arguably the most high-profile poaching case in Ohio history.

www.outdoorlife.com

 

[eddielasvegas]

On topic and Things That Make You Go Hmmmm….

Link HERE.

This might be the same case @Poser referenced, but I'm too lazy to watch both.


Eddie

 

[North of 60]

If people only knew how truly corrupt their state fish and game agencies are.

Unfortunately it is part of the human condition, and LEOs are not immune to it. I'm confident the LEOs and wardens who visit this site are aware of at least some bad apples in the ranks.

That being said there are also many very good human beings who work in law enforcement of all types, and I'm grateful for them.

 

[TWoch]

There is zero excuse for a few bad apples. Reasons sure, excuses, never. But it happens. Nothing a good cop hates more than a bad one.
It’s human nature, law of percentages, its weakness among people, but be careful casting stones if from a glass house

The problem is…when doctors, teachers, and/or LE don’t call out fellow “bad apples” of their professions. Trying to protect the image of the system instead of the integrity of it…(see the general counsel’s statement in SC)

 

[Rich M]

Law enforcement get a bad wrap bc of a few bad apples. Ever think hunters can get a bad wrap bc of a few bad hunters. A landowner out west may have easily given permission to anyone who may have asked, hunting rights even if asked, but the day he saw trespassers it was “gd hunters, think they own the place” from there on out. What else is there, you ever have a bad day where you just act like an ass to people? ever think about things from the other persons boots? Sure, a game warden or cop can be ass at times, ever think what a cop may have dealt w before coming to your situation? Sure there are some bad cops, but the % is low. Sure there are some asshole hunters, I bet the % is low. I’m sure there are some illegal guides setting poaching camps that give guiding a bad name. Not all guides are bad. At the end of the day, if you’re in the right, the warden or cop just has a job to do. If your wrong yiur wrong, sure there is discretion a lot of times, but that’s like a tip, don’t expect it.

Law enforcement gets a be rap cause of how 1/2 of them treat people.

Say that 3 times and understand.

1/2 gw are good conscionable folks. 1/2 are dicks. Which one you gonna get?

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Unfortunately it is part of the human condition, and LEOs are not immune to it. I'm confident the LEOs and wardens who visit this site are aware of at least some bad apples in the ranks.

That being said there are also many very good human beings who work in law enforcement of all types, and I'm grateful for them.

I’m not just talking about law enforcement, corruption is rampant at all levels of state game agencies. I’ve seen first hand people who show up with good intentions only to use the system for their own benefit.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

1/2? Pretty bold statement. Thsts a lot. Is it true half of them are? That’s crazy.

My good buddy is a cop and he says it’s shocking how many things don’t really make it into evidence, bags of weed etc. he also told me that resources to find information about people is often abused.

As far as fish and game agencies, it’s fairly common for things to use reported data and flight time to find animals on their own trips.

 

[North of 60]

The problem is…when doctors, teachers, and/or LE don’t call out fellow “bad apples” of their professions. Trying to protect the image of the system instead of the integrity of it…(see the general counsel’s statement in SC)

This takes much courage...in part because of the many risks involved (professional and otherwise) in being a whistleblower on a fellow professional.

IME there is much truth to systems of various kinds having leadership whose first instinct is to protect the image of that particular system.

My good buddy is a cop and he says it’s shocking how many things don’t really make it into evidence, bags of weed etc. he also told me that resources to find information about people is often abused.

As far as fish and game agencies, it’s fairly common for things to use reported data and flight time to find animals on their own trips.

Generally speaking evidence is probably the most safe once it reaches a crime lab, because the lab is then involved in chain of custody.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

This takes much courage...in part because of the many risks involved (professional and otherwise) in being a whistleblower on a fellow professional.

IME there is much truth to systems of various kinds having leadership whose first instinct is to protect the image of that particular system.


Generally speaking evidence is probably the most safe once it reaches a crime lab, because the lab is then involved in chain of custody.

Yeah it would take a pretty bold cop to be taking stuff from the lab/evidence room. Lots of “small things” don’t make it there at all but though.

 

[7mm-08]

Unfortunately it is part of the human condition, and LEOs are not immune to it. I'm confident the LEOs and wardens who visit this site are aware of at least some bad apples in the ranks.

That being said there are also many very good human beings who work in law enforcement of all types, and I'm grateful for them.

Well said. Be respectful and reciprocal in your treatment of all others, and especially law enforcement officer (because they can make your life miserable). Don't mistake cooperation with relinquishing your 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment rights, however.

 

[Zeke6951]

Long post but needed to get the full story.
I had an encounter with a Colorado GW that sorta gave me a bad impression. My son killed a bull 2 days before the end of our hunt. He and I spent the next day processing the meat. We broke down all the muscles and sliced them into steaks. Proof of sex was left on a piece of meat that was probably 2 1/2 inches thick. It came off the mountain on a whole rear quarter. All the meat was put in zip lock bags and put on ice. Next day we were fishing at a nearby lake. A game warden pulls up to check fishing liscense. When he got to my son's liscense he noticed he had killed a bull. The first thing out of his mouth was POS left naturally attached to a major portion of the meat? I said, not to a major portion but to the biggest piece. Explained we had processed it in camp. He ranted for a while about how it had to be left on a quarter until processed for consumption. IT IS PROCESSED FOR CONSUMPTION !! Instead of harassing a hunter for not leaving the bulls pecker on a big enough piece of meat, why are you not out in the woods writing tickets for all the ATVs off trail. I had called CPW twice about the problem in the week prior. We saw worn out ATV trails across meadows in Wilderness Areas. They were easily seen from a forest service road. We saw beaver dams that looked like a motor cross race had taken place in them in WA. The last thing he said was I never should have stopped, I knew you had fishing liscense. I think it was easy and he didn't have to get too far from his truck.

 

[BBob]

Good luck. He doesn’t need permission

Yes he does if there’s no probable cause. There was no probable cause because we weren’t and didn’t do anything he could justify it for. When I told him no he just carried on with his questions and when satisfied he was on his way. Btw this is AZ and mby your state is different but here a fish and game officer needs probable cause for a search just like the regular popo does.

Edit: Just for clarity for others. The officer wanted me to literally allow his dog up into the back of the truck. I denied that request. He could and did let his dog run around outside the truck. He can do that all he wants.

 

[KenLee]

Yeah it would take a pretty bold cop to be taking stuff from the lab/evidence room. Lots of “small things” don’t make it there at all but though.

County Clerk of Court wanted to buy a personal airplane with proceeds from stolen evidence.

Prison Sentence Reduced For Former Clerk Of Court

A judge reduced the prison sentence on Tuesday for former Spartanburg County Clerk of Court Marc Kitchens.

www.wyff4.com

 

[4cMuley]

When my buddies and I were around 16/17 we were out pheasant hunting opening weekend ND. We ended up 1 shy of our limit between the 3 of us, 8 birds total. Headed back to town we hit a “game” checkpoint. DEA and Border Patrol were there too. Figure they must’ve been working a lead or something. It was sort of interesting.

They did talk to us separately to ask how many birds each of us shot haha. The last one of my buddies in the line had to do some mental math on the spot lol.

The DEA dude thought he hit a jackpot when he looked at our guns with shells in the magazine tube. Local game warden quickly told him that was legal. Strange experience