How to deal with game wardens?

[NRA4LIFE]

Fricking wardens harassing the general public still, we need to rid of them

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads...-over-trophy-deer-lion-and-wolf-cases.419154/

Yeah, almost all of them are nefarious characters.

 

[Swamp Fox]

This is worth a look or three ...

South Carolina "night hunting" ....

SC hunter suing DNR in a civil suit for wrongful arrest and imprisonment, malicious prosecution, and defamation.

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

In another long thread, there was a general consensus to STFU and refuse to answer game wardern's questions.

I see the point but I wonder where to draw the line
M:e hello
GW: Hello, can I see you hunting license?
Me: Sure. Here it is.
GW: Where have you been hunting?
GW: How long have you been hunting today?
GW: Can I check your waterfowl shotgun to make sure you have your plug?
GW: Did you get anything?
GW: Can I see you fish/game?
GW: Do you have permission for this field? From whom?
GW: Etc. Etc

I have had many encounters. I have readily answered all those questions. The GWs always did their jobs and moved on.

It seems that refusing to answer those questions would have immediately escalated the situation.

How do other folks deal with these encounters?

I don’t break a law so I have nothing to hide.
I always answer questions with questions.

1. May I see your LEO Credentials?
2. Where did you park?
3. How long is your shift?
4. Can I check your sidearm to make sure it’s safe?
5. You arrested anyone?
6. Can I see your feet?
7. Does your supervisor know where you are?
8. Etc. Etc.

 

[Randue]

Can I let my dog check out the back of your truck?

NO

He can let his dog do a "free air sniff" around your vehicle.

 

[Rich M]

You-all gotta remember that the GW was likely called by another hunter or fisherman to report you or someone else near you. If GW has to drive out there to save the world over a short fish or extra bird or cause guy who called is pissed that you got the big buck or bull, he's going to hit up as many folks as possible. He also has this thing in his head - put there by the dude who called him.

It's pretty pathetic that most of these problems are caused by "fellow sportsmen" and their desire to save the world. Often reporting stuff they have no clue about.

 

[Turkeytider]

Follow the regs, answer the questions and be friendly. After a visit or two he or she doesn’t even ask questions anymore. Ends up being a 5-10 minute BS session and I’m on my way. I’ve never had issues.

Nor have I. If you have everything as it should be and just be open and friendly, no problem.

 

[TWoch]

This is worth a look or three ...

South Carolina "night hunting" ....

SC hunter suing DNR in a civil suit for wrongful arrest and imprisonment, malicious prosecution, and defamation.

My favorite part of the news story was DNR “general counsel” still being so adamant even after the real justice system dropped the charges. No disciplinary actions for either officer for manipulating body cameras…

 

[Pharmseller]

I give them 5 minutes if pleasantries, if they start their bullshit with questions trying to trip me up I just ask them if I need a lawyer.


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She looked 18, I swear.

 

[bpitcher]

I've had nothing but good interactions with state wardens in multiple different states. Most are very friendly, polite and professional.

Federal wardens have been very hit or miss...

Years ago we got called into a meeting with the Captain for the region and a couple local wardens about the conduct of the federal wardens working the area. He took notes and at the end apologized for the conduct of the feds and stated that they were opening an investigation.

 

[sodaksooner]

If born after 1/1/1949, you are required to have your hunter's ed card on you while hunting in CO. The exception being if the card is "verified", which I believe entails some extra steps with CPW.

You just have to take the card into one of their offices. We had an extra day prior to a hunt several years ago and the office was just down the street in Gunnison where we ate. We popped over and showed our cards. No worries ever since. It's tied to your account. Just one less thing you have to remember.

 

[LongWayAround]

You-all gotta remember that the GW was likely called by another hunter or fisherman to report you or someone else near you. If GW has to drive out there to save the world over a short fish or extra bird or cause guy who called is pissed that you got the big buck or bull, he's going to hit up as many folks as possible. He also has this thing in his head - put there by the dude who called him.

It's pretty pathetic that most of these problems are caused by "fellow sportsmen" and their desire to save the world. Often reporting stuff they have no clue about.

I have only ever called people in who we're doing things that were outright illegal or blatantly unethical.

It's more likely that you get checked because you're in a popular area and the guy is there doing his patrol.

Some of you guys are ridiculous.

 

[LongWayAround]

She said she was 18, I swear.

Fixed it

 

[taskswap]

I don’t break a law so I have nothing to hide.
I always answer questions with questions.

1. May I see your LEO Credentials?
2. Where did you park?
3. How long is your shift?
4. Can I check your sidearm to make sure it’s safe?
5. You arrested anyone?
6. Can I see your feet?
7. Does your supervisor know where you are?
8. Etc. Etc.

Please video the next time you do this. It's really easy to post things on the Internet, but I find it REALLY hard to believe you ask an officer wearing a badge for their "LEO Credentials", where they parked, or to check their sidearm. Come on, check their sidearm? That's probably the single best way to escalate an interaction with any LEO. Maintaining control over their firearms is one of their highest priorities. Do you really expect folks to believe you poke that particular bear?

 

[taskswap]

Libtard Colorado says you have to have it if you’re younger than 75.

Hunter safety education was made mandatory in 1970 due to high accident rates. The political climate at the time was much more conservative than today, and the program has been extremely effective - accident rates have hovered near zero in the decades since. Save your hate speech for facts, if you have any.

 

[sodaksooner]

All good here. Ive had just a couple of interactions hunting. My dad worked for the SDGFP as a pilot and while they mostly did predator control, he did fly during the seasons looking for game violations, and would vector the game wardens in if he saw something he suspected. He also occasionally flew at night looking for spotlighters. That said our game warden lived just up the street and we grew up with his kids. He was tough, but as long as you werent blatantly doing anything illegal he gave you the benefit of the doubt. His son that is my age is still a game warden and is highly regarded.

Only other interactions were on the water. We got nabbed once for standing up in the boat while underway, rough water with a lot of debris so we were looking out for it. Don't think we got a ticket. Also had several safety checks at the ramp. No issues there either.

Have also gotten some good hunting tips from CO's in Colorado too.

 

[taskswap]

You-all gotta remember that the GW was likely called by another hunter or fisherman to report you or someone else near you. If GW has to drive out there to save the world over a short fish or extra bird or cause guy who called is pissed that you got the big buck or bull, he's going to hit up as many folks as possible. He also has this thing in his head - put there by the dude who called him.

It's pretty pathetic that most of these problems are caused by "fellow sportsmen" and their desire to save the world. Often reporting stuff they have no clue about.

I've never seen any stats that support a statement like this. Do you have any or is this just your opinion?

I wouldn't say I've personally had a "statistically significant" number of these interactions myself, but it's probably approaching a dozen at this point. I never directly asked them why they were called out but never had to - it was very obvious it was routine interactions. A few times they were roadside tag checks (there are a few GMUs here in CO where that's common - I've seen them twice in 501 when I wasn't even hunting), and all but one of the rest were in camp with them very obviously patrolling, doing a routine check of everyone parked there. The last one was while fishing with my daughter, a simple tag check at Barr Lake.

 

[mtwarden]

I don’t break a law so I have nothing to hide.
I always answer questions with questions.

1. May I see your LEO Credentials?
2. Where did you park?
3. How long is your shift?
4. Can I check your sidearm to make sure it’s safe?
5. You arrested anyone?
6. Can I see your feet?
7. Does your supervisor know where you are?
8. Etc. Etc.

Yeah I’d recommend not doing this

 

[sodaksooner]

Hunter safety education was made mandatory in 1970 due to high accident rates. The political climate at the time was much more conservative than today, and the program has been extremely effective - accident rates have hovered near zero in the decades since. Save your hate speech for facts, if you have any.

Most other states are the same, with varying ages. Has nothing to do with the Libtards. OK and SD are much the same and last I checked they were pretty red.

 

[Charlie Brown]

Last time I was checked by Fish &Game was some years back in Idaho. Came out to a trailhead and he was sitting in his truck. We are N/R hunters. We stood around talking and putting out gear away. My buddy was asking about job opportunities for his son. Must have talked for 20-25 minutes . Said he should check our licenses before he got going. Showed them to him and he barely looked at them . Said our goodbyes and we all left.

 

[skateabrock]

I just keep it chill. Rarely do we run into wildlife troopers where I hunt in Alaska, there's hardly any working at any given time and they have the entire state to patrol. "Do unto others" comes to mind, I won't get into unnecessary explanations but being nice and civil sure does go a long way.