How light can you get a tikka?

[roosiebull]

I owned a 5.5# 30-06 that only shoots worth a damn with 180 grain bullets. It's a thumper but isn't unpleasant. Certainly less recoil than heavy turkey shot or slugs out of a shotgun. If it wasn't such a hassle to get the pencil thin barrel threaded for a can id still own it.

Better than shotgun slugs? That’s comforting

The only shooting I do that I don’t like is patterning a turkey gun, and sighting in a slug gun… both just suck

 

[Farmcritter]

Talking 6lbs bare rifle? This is a 20” preferred barrel hybrid lite contour 6.5 prc with a Trijicon credo hx 4-16x50 sitting in talleys sitting in a Stockys ultra carbon verticle grip stock. Barrel rifle goes 5lbs 14oz. If you want the factory lite contour you’d be under 6lbs by a few oz. If you went Stockys ultra carbon traditional style stock you’d be almost 5.5lbs
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Would you mind showing a cple more pics of your full build if you get a chance. I’m starting a build myself and want a 20” 6.5 prc. Only thing holding me up is picking the barrel contour. Thx!

 

[brockel]

Would you mind showing a cple more pics of your full build if you get a chance. I’m starting a build myself and want a 20” 6.5 prc. Only thing holding me up is picking the barrel contour. Thx!

I don’t have the gun anymore

 

[Macintosh]

Resurrecting this.

Assembling a Franken-tikka. Trying to get it as light as I REASONABLY can while maintaining really good reliability.

I’m wondering if anyone has actual measured barrel weights for identical LITE versus SUPERLITE barrels? I’m looking for a 6.5 creed superlite barrel, and having trouble finding one. I’m pretty heavily invested in that cartridge for some other guns, so would prefer to run that rather than another similar short action cartridge. So just wondering if anybody knows actual weights, possible it could prompt me to try something different that is more readily available.

Also, did the stocky’s carbon stocks add some chunk? I see someone above mentioned 21 ounces for one. Mine is all of 24oz in bare carbon.

 

[ReaptheHeat]

Resurrecting this.

Assembling a Franken-tikka. Trying to get it as light as I REASONABLY can while maintaining really good reliability.

I’m wondering if anyone has actual measured barrel weights for identical LITE versus SUPERLITE barrels? I’m looking for a 6.5 creed superlite barrel, and having trouble finding one. I’m pretty heavily invested in that cartridge for some other guns, so would prefer to run that rather than another similar short action cartridge. So just wondering if anybody knows actual weights, possible it could prompt me to try something different that is more readily available.

Also, did the stocky’s carbon stocks add some chunk? I see someone above mentioned 21 ounces for one. Mine is all of 24oz in bare carbon.
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The lite (24 in) usually comes in around 2 lb 6-8 oz. The 22 in superlites are 2 lb to 2lb 2 oz if I recall. I'm not sure how much the new gen II tikka barrels weigh.

 

[Macintosh]

@ReaptheHeat my lite contour 24” 6.5cm barrel is 2lb 8 oz. 22” 270win is 2lb 5oz. I highly doubt there is any significant weight variability within one cartridge though. Everything I have found lists range, which I believe is dependent on the amount of metal removed for the bore and chamber, as well as the 22” vs 24” barrels. I’d love to get an actual weight measurement on a 65 Creedmoor super light, including the barrel length. If it’s really 4-6 ounces, that’s worth it to me. Just hoping to get an actual weight that allows me to compare apples:apples, not a estimate or range.

 

[ReaptheHeat]

@ReaptheHeat my lite contour 24” 6.5cm barrel is 2lb 8 oz. I highly doubt there is any significant weight variability within one cartridge, but yeah everything I have found lists range, which I assume is dependent on the amount of metal removed for the bore and chamber, as well as the 22” vs 24” barrels. I’d love to get an actual weight measurement on a 65 Creedmoor super light, including the barrel length. If it’s really 4-6 ounces, that’s worth it to me. Just hoping to get an actual weight that allows me to compare apples:apples, not a estimate or range.

Yeah I my 308 superlite is currently mounted otherwise I'd give you a weight.

 

[nm.otter]

As I recall, the T3x Lite/Superlite factory stock weighs 28oz. Fluting on Superlite barrel removes 3-4 oz depending on length.

 

[letrbuck]

If it's helpful to folks, a stainless action with UM short bolt handle and round knob tips the scale at 30.5 oz

 

[PistolPete]

I've been thinking about this lately as well. It appears to me that you could cut a half pound or so from a T3X Lite with a thinner profile barrel - 30 oz action, 25 oz stock, 32 oz barrel (Kimber profile) gets you to under 5.5. This is theoretical, but adds up when you consider the action is around a half pound more than the Kimber, and Hunters/Montanas are around 5 lbs.

 

[Kauaihunter]

As I recall, the T3x Lite/Superlite factory stock weighs 28oz. Fluting on Superlite barrel removes 3-4oz depending on length.

I have seen the same. Factory stock went to 31oz with the Limbsaver and vertical grip. Peak Blacktooth 19oz. B&C 34oz. Boyd’s Laminate 41oz. Peak Bastion 21.6oz

 

[nm.otter]

Oregunsmithing LRH with heavy micarta butt plate, Backstop recoil pad, QD cups and two Spartan Gunsmith adapters = 25 oz.

 

[Macintosh]

I've been thinking about this lately as well. It appears to me that you could cut a half pound or so from a T3X Lite with a thinner profile barrel - 30 oz action, 25 oz stock, 32 oz barrel (Kimber profile) gets you to under 5.5. This is theoretical, but adds up when you consider the action is around a half pound more than the Kimber, and Hunters/Montanas are around 5 lbs.

I think thats very realistic. This is off the shelf action, high desert bottom metal, stockys carbon, and a regular lite-contour barrel cut to 20”. At a touch over 1oz per inch of barrel its 5.75 with an 18”. 3 more ounces isnt ridiculous—flutes or a thinner profile or shorter barrel probably get you there.

 

[nm.otter]

Factory fluted bolt from Roughtech Superlite (includes larger bolt knob) = 11 oz (0.3 oz less than a standard bolt/knob).

 

[nm.otter]

stockys carbon

Am I dreaming, or does that thing have a crazy long trigger reach?

 

[Macintosh]

Am I dreaming, or does that thing have a crazy long trigger reach?

Its an old school sporter grip, so I think reach is much less critical to begin with. And I think its mostly an artifact of the photo. It does not feel at all long to me. I just measured, it’s virtually identical to the grip on my wifes kimber 84m.

 

[nm.otter]

Photo angle plus the matte grip texture may have tricked my eyes a bit.

 

[duchntr]

Am I dreaming, or does that thing have a crazy long trigger reach?

You aren’t, I have one and it’s long.

 

[Macintosh]

@duchntr if you think thats long you should see some of my shotguns. Or a winchester model 70. This stock is a carbon copy of literally any traditional sporter stock from the past 100 years. You dont get “short trigger reach” until you get into vertical, or at least much steeper, grips.

 

[ReaptheHeat]

@ReaptheHeat my lite contour 24” 6.5cm barrel is 2lb 8 oz. 22” 270win is 2lb 5oz. I highly doubt there is any significant weight variability within one cartridge though. Everything I have found lists range, which I believe is dependent on the amount of metal removed for the bore and chamber, as well as the 22” vs 24” barrels. I’d love to get an actual weight measurement on a 65 Creedmoor super light, including the barrel length. If it’s really 4-6 ounces, that’s worth it to me. Just hoping to get an actual weight that allows me to compare apples:apples, not a estimate or range.

Ok gents. Here are some numbers. Taking my 300 WSM barrel off my tikka. It had a good season this year with the 178 ELDX. Recoil is too much with the Peak44 Blacktooth stock (19oz). The recoil pad on that stock just plain sucks and really presents itself when shooting at weird positions where the pad is angled in the shoulder pocket. I have the action off right now and a stock 308 win superlite I can compare to. I also have a handful of barrels I can weigh.

The lite 24 in barrel varies between chamberings with the 30 cal being the lightest and progressing up with each caliber down adding 1 oz of weight. 300 wsm = 2 lb 5.8 oz. 7 mag = 2 lb 6.8 oz. 270 WSM = 2 lb 7.8 oz.


300 WSM

I also weighed the 22 in 6.5 SAUM PBB Prefit (Hybrid Contour). 2 lb 3.9 oz.


Now the superlite. Stock action weighs 1lb 3 oz. Superlite+action weighs 3 lb 4.5 oz.. I'm finding the 308 win superlite barrel (22 in) weighs ~2 lb 1.5 oz. Hope this helps. I was suprised the 308 superlite weighed that much considering how thin the profile is vs the PBB. I bet the PBB in a 30 cal would weigh dang near similar. I'd say its a toss up between a stock superlite and PBB with cost and what threading you want being the driver. Fluting doesn't seem to shave much weight between the lite and superlite considering the 308 is 2 inches shorter.