Hornady describes difference between ELD-X and ELD Match

[Aussie Dan]

Can't stand the hornady podcasts in general, this one just proved that they're barely more than a marketing company.

Seems like they know and quasi acknowledge that ELD-Ms work in many hunting scenarios but couldn't say so because it would likely render the ELD-X and other products irrelevant and affect sales of their "hunting" lines of projectiles and factory ammo.

 

[Whitefox82]

The reason they don’t acknowledge the M as a hunting bullet is because in REAL hunting scenarios there are too may variables for it to fail. Not everyone shoots 600+ yards, where impact velocity is moderate to low and you have the time for a broadside only shot.
Imagine you drew a once in a lifetime elk tag and on the last day of the hunt you final have your target bull in dense timber at 100 yards and it’s quartering hard. You either need to go through the ham or front shoulder at high impact velocity to reach vitals. Will you feel confident in your bullet?

 

[Hondo64d]

Hornady just had a podcast on Youtube that describes the difference between the ELD-X and ELD Match. Some of you might be interested to know their take. NOTE: it was more about what the differences are instead of saying what people should use.

Haven’t finished listening to it yet, but did they ever say whether any of them had actually try ELD-Ms on game? If not, how would they know they do or don’t work well?

John

 

[MuleyFever]

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Haven’t finished listening to it yet, but did they ever say whether any of them had actually try ELD-Ms on game? If not, how would they know they do or don’t work well?

John

Did they say they know that the M works or doesn't work on game?

 

[LongWayAround]

The reason they don’t acknowledge the M as a hunting bullet is because in REAL hunting scenarios there are too may variables for it to fail. Not everyone shoots 600+ yards, where impact velocity is moderate to low and you have the time for a broadside only shot.
Imagine you drew a once in a lifetime elk tag and on the last day of the hunt you final have your target bull in dense timber at 100 yards and it’s quartering hard. You either need to go through the ham or front shoulder at high impact velocity to reach vitals. Will you feel confident in your bullet?

I'm not shooting through the ham to get to the vitals.

They go through shoulders.

They work fine inside of 600yd.

Normal "real" hunting.

 

[JF_Idaho]

It just doesn't seem that hard to follow along.

Yes they have tested terminal ballistics on the match bullets.

They do not test each Lot of production Ms. They do test each Lot of production Xs.

You MIGHT buy a Lot of Ms that grenade or don't expand for various reasons.

I shot 147eldms last season and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot them again.

 

[Chad E]

You either need to go through the ham

This line of thinking is what leads to poor shots and wounded critters. You don't NEED to do anything especially shoot through the ham. Wait for a better shot angle if it doesn't present one its OK that the elk wins sometimes. Ass blasting an elk and justifying by saying its a once in a lifetime tag is garbage.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

This line of thinking is what leads to poor shots and wounded critters. You don't NEED to do anything especially shoot through the ham. Wait for a better shot angle if it doesn't present one its OK that the elk wins sometimes. Ass blasting an elk and justifying by saying its a once in a lifetime tag is garbage.

Never in my life have I considered going through a ham for any critters, and I'm from Texas ffs. I don't care what gun or projectile I have I'm not doing it. Best I'll do is tucking behind the last rib. Somebody posted a ruler pic the other day from last rib inside the cage all the way up to the groove where the heart loves and I think it was 18"? 18" of soft ooey gooey organs, think I'll take my chances with the M's and TMK's.

 

[Raghorn54]

Four years ago, I stumbled into the ELDMs after my new Tikka wouldn’t shoot an ELDX group less than 3”. Sub-MOA with the M’s. This forum gave me the confidence to hunt with the ELDMs. Two bull elk, one antelope, caribou and whitetail buck later, I’m a believer. Elk bones crushed at 200 yards, liquefied lungs, and a propensity to grenade and hit the spine. Have a new rifle this year, and I’m sticking to the M’s. Luckily, the new Tikka likes them as much as the old.