Homeless, How do towns deal with it?

[NRA4LIFE]

Seattle's latest and greatest the last few years, has been to buy up older hotels to house them in and build the tiny home villages. A couple problems there. These facilities mandate no drugs or alcohol. A recent survey showed nearly 70% of the homeless population are drug addicts or alcoholics. So these people don't want anything to do with the rules of these facilities and will not go. They choose they're lifestyle of crime and drug addiction. I seen now where Seattle has spent well over a billion dollars on the homeless crises in the last 10 or 15 years (can't remember which) and in that time the homeless population has increased 10 fold. Nice work.

 

[jayhawk]

COVID seemed to expedite the problem. There were always homeless people, but there weren't giant camps and panhandlers like there is today. At least nowhere I've lived.

 

[Coveyleader]

I'm not sure what you're asking? The drug camps in eastern Oregon are very racially diverse

I’ve been out that way a lot, but haven’t t spent a ton of time breaking down the percentages. If I was a betting man, I’ll go out on a limb and say the majority are white, probably a healthy percentage of native americans.


Denver? It’s all whites. Vancouver BC mostly whites and natives, along with a couple Filipinos. If you look at the demographics of Vancouver these days, there is a shortage of white people, yet they make up the largest percent of the “drug addicts living outdoors”


Vancouver is Chinese, and Indian, Indians from India, yet you would be hard pressed to find one of those ethnic groups hunched over in a stooper out of their minds.

The solution is simple, yet complex to this madness, but our country is set up to block it from happening.

 

[Hnthrdr]

I’ve been out that way a lot, but haven’t t spent a ton of time breaking down the percentages. If I was a betting man, I’ll go out on a limb and say the majority are white, probably a healthy percentage of native americans.


Denver? It’s all whites. Vancouver BC mostly whites and natives, along with a couple Filipinos. If you look at the demographics of Vancouver these days, there is a shortage of white people, yet they make up the largest percent of the “drug addicts living outdoors”


Vancouver is Chinese, and Indian, Indians from India, yet you would be hard pressed to find one of those ethnic groups hunched over in a stooper out of their minds.

The solution is simple, yet complex to this madness, but our country is set up to block it from happening.

Nah man Denver homeless is very diverse, lots of every flavor lots of illegals

 

[PNW bow hunter]

This is in a Arkansas town population 24,000. The guy and his dog have set up camp for 4 days now a block from my office. This is at a major intersection in the middle of town. How do other town deal with these issues?
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This city I work in enables the behavior. It is a huge industry for “non profits” to “support” the drug addicts. The last fiscal year the city spent nearly $750 million dollars on “homeless services”. It’s unreal. Companies get paid huge amounts of money to clean up the messes, the addicts move and create a new mess.

The city raise taxes on law abiding folks, then funnel the money to the non profits.

The criminals trash the city, steal from the stores constantly, break into vehicles, steal catalytic converters, drill holes in your gas tank to steal the gas out of your car etc.

The policies of the city government directly leads to the destruction of businesses, and people’s way of life.

It’s a disaster.

The parts of the city where they let them have free rain look like a cross between the walking dead movie and Mad Max.

If enuff businesses close in an area, the city will enforce the laws, and magically the problem is gone in that specific area.

It is estimated 50 percent of the homeless people in this city moved here directly due to the amount of “free money” they can get, and the lack of law enforcement.

When I cross the county line 15 minutes away where I live they don’t tolerate it, and enforce the laws. It’s like I landed on a different planet. Everything is normal and how you would expect it to be.

 

[Coveyleader]

Nah man Denver homeless is very diverse, lots of every flavor lots of illegals

Stop calling them “homeless” and call them what they are, drug addicts on the street.

 

[Blowdowner]

You deal with it by going back in time and glueing a clown wig and nose onto anyone allowing American factories to die off and then you go back to today and teach this wretch how to do the easiest job in that factory that is now still open.

 

[Blowdowner]

If enuff businesses close in an area, the city will enforce the laws, and magically the problem is gone in that specific area.

Yep homeless mobs are the front line troops of choice for bribed/blackmailed local government. You can try to hold out but if too many of you stick around you get the Lahaina treatment. And then once business picks up again it's new owners from Manhattan and they turn there hardware stores into yoga studios and coffee shops.

 

[ThisIsMyHandle]

Most working class Americans are closer to being homeless than being wealthy. You’re only one bad decision away.


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[2531usmc]

Yep homeless mobs are the front line troops of choice for bribed/blackmailed local government. You can try to hold out but if too many of you stick around you get the Lahaina treatment. And then once business picks up again it's new owners from Manhattan and they turn there hardware stores into yoga studios and coffee shops.

But what’s happening is that people and businesses that can afford to leave are leaving. San Francisco, LA, Seattle, Portland, etc.

Once those middle/upper class people, and the businesses that employ them, leave…..they’re not coming back. As the cities settle into financial distress (think Chicago, Baltimore) they start to canibalize the remaining citizens and the decline accelerates.

 

[fngTony]

Most working class Americans are closer to being homeless than being wealthy. You’re only one bad decision away.


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I think about that a lot. It could be unavoidable or unforeseen circumstances not just bad decisions. Loss of a job and a bad medical diagnosis or a medical condition/injury causing you to not work or earn as you’re accustomed to.

 

[CRJR45]

I think about that a lot. It could be unavoidable or unforeseen circumstances not just bad decisions. Loss of a job and a bad medical diagnosis or a medical condition/injury causing you to not work or earn as you’re accustomed to.

12 years ago we lived in our RV while traveling for a couple of years . I was shocked at how many people lived in their RV out of necessity . People my age , lost their house to heart attack medical bills , loss of job , or just dumb luck .
It happens more than I realized .

 

[Idaboy]

This is in a Arkansas town population 24,000. The guy and his dog have set up camp for 4 days now a block from my office. This is at a major intersection in the middle of town. How do other town deal with these issues?
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Welcome to the real world

 

[JJ1179]

What's the solution ? Put them in jail ? How can you force someone NOT to be homeless ? What would the penalty be ?

Yeah, that’s exactly what you do. The vast majority of them have or are committing a crime. I would wager to bet that they are on drugs or have drugs on their person, that they are more than likely in possession of stolen property, or are violating a MC or law by setting up camps in unauthorized places, by littering, or by loitering.

The homeless in the City I work continually leave trash everywhere, destroy public property, and make people feel uncomfortable in the City Parks that are public property paid for and maintained by public tax funds.

 

[missjordan]

In my town homelessness has significantly gotten worse. 20 years ago they were all out of sight. You knew where they lived but they all kept a low profile. Then something changed and the homeless didn’t care about keeping a low profile anymore and they started camping wherever and whenever they wanted. I’m not sure what the answer is either but it’s bad.


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[Idaboy]

Same reason you don't feed stray cats at your house. Many grocery stores have programs in place to donate expired/expiring food to shelters and food banks.

My neighbor feeds alley cats....he doesn't have any mice

 

[Nine Banger]

Most working class Americans are closer to being homeless than being wealthy. You’re only one bad decision away.

Some have already made the bad decisions they just deflect how vulnerable they are if something changes.

One of my best friends is homeless. He had it together when we were young and all he had to deal with was childhood trauma. A couple of turd sandwiches later and here we are.

 

[UpNorth89]

The closest town to me built a fancy homeless shelter a few years ago. Per room it cost taxpayers around $200,000. Those staying there are still allowed to bring in their drugs and alcohol. After a few months the whole place was trashed.

 

[Loggerdude]

I live 20 miles from the Castle of the university of Oregon, when it is a problem there for the Olympic trials Phil Night makes deals and ships them to other communities like mine. They build camps with everything one may need then they have dogs then rats and everything else you could imagine. Oh yes and some ngo’s or government theives get paid to set up shelters and showers. Well a bunch of city council members were recently voted out and the gig was over. I’m not sure how much the city paid for ems and others which the tax payers or government GRANTS which is free money that is never paid back. Enough I guess, if you don’t work you don’t eat, hopefully the drugs are slowing down, ngo are getting shut down and hope is in site. MAGA

 

[JJ1179]

You willing to pay for that?

You don’t think you’re(and everyone else) are already paying in some form or fashion? Yeah, we’re all paying. For police services dealing with them repeatedly, by having medical calls, for fixing or repairing public property paid for with local tax dollars, for cleaning up trash and feces left by them… yeah, we’re already paying.

At least they would be in a place being monitored, not on the streets committing crimes or causing problems for residents of said City, and they would be getting meals and the care they need.

Is it a great answer, no! But it beats them being on the streets causing issues for the rest of a functioning society.